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Hi there. We were lucky enough to score 2 for 1 B-class tix on a La Compagnie flight to Milan. We arrive on July 31, and our preliminary itinerary is:

Upon arrival, train to Florence
3 nights in Florence
Train to Lake Garda
3 nights in Lake Garda
Train to Milan
6 nights in Milan with day trips via train to Bologna and Genoa

We have reservations at Marriott properties (we hoard Bonvoy points) in Florence and Milan.

We could really use suggestions for a hotel in Lake Garda (budget up to $400 dollars/night), whether we should rent a car once there (it looks like the best way to tour all around the lake), and recommendations for stops/sights/meals in the region.

As well, neither of us has visited northern Italy before, so recommendations for restaurants/sights/tours in Milan and Florence would be appreciated. We are mining the many suggestions on the RSE boards, but always appreciate a personal recommendation. We really enjoy food and wine and are happy to budget up to $150 for dinner.

Thanks so much!

Marc and Nancy

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Congrats on the flights- what a score!
Six nights in Milan would be way too much for me, as it's a bustling city. Seems you have free Marriott lodgings, but you'll be missing the serene and beautiful mornings and evenings of staying in smaller towns. Would you consider a few nights in Bologna?
Just curious, what are your interests in Genoa?
The RS guide has some really good recommendations for Milan and Florence. Also, check out the Trip Reports here, and the Scrapbooks.
I'll do some Searches here and see if I can find more info regarding your questions. Enjoy your trip!

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We spent 6 days in Milano in March of 2020.
Enjoyed it, except for Zona Rosa. Covid was beyond annoying.
We are returning this October for 4 days. Maybe The Last Supper will be open.
Climb to the top of the Duomo.
My wife loved the Bottega Veneta store where she was the only customer for that week. It was an expensive visit.
We ate well.

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If I were to do a daytrip to Bologna I would do it from Florence, not Milan. Six nights in Milan would be too many for me but I prefer smaller towns to big cities. Since you are interested in Bologna and food would you consider a two night stay there? A pretty daytrip from Milan to Bergamo is doable or to Brescia. I'd take some of those nights from Milan and consider adding in one more destination, or adding days to your base of Florence. Some of the other destinations to consider for a stay or daytrip from Florence would be Verona, Siena, San Gimignano, Mantova.
Sirmione has a very pretty castle on the water on Lake Garda. I really liked Riva del Garda and Limone sul Garda on the northern end of the lake, nestled among the mountains. You would need to get there by ferry or car as there is no train service to those two scenic towns. Malcesine was also attractive. I visited them on a daytrip by car with a driver service from Trento. To get to Sirmione I took a bus from Verona. The town of Sirmione is very small.
Should you decide to stay a few nights on the coast near Genoa look at Comogli or Portofino or Santa Margherita Ligure. I, personally, would avoid Cinque Terre as I imagine it will be packed with tourists in July and August.

Great deal on your 2 for 1 flight! Enjoy your trip!

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If you want to visit Bologna, you’re only a 30-minute train from Florence. Would you be okay with 3 nights each in Florence, Bologna, Lake Garda, Milan, instead? If so, take a day while staying in Bologna to go see the gorgeous Ravenna mosaics. It’s an easy train ride.

From Milan, you are near several places within an hour by train: the lakes - Stresa on Lake Maggoire, Lake Como, Cremona - very atmospheric piazza with an amazing fresco-filled cathedral interior. Plus Cremona is home to Stradavari and an excellent violin museum w/ concerts on weekends. Torino is even just an hour by train and lots of history - a great Egyptian museum! And more.

A small bit of advice. Use your Marriott points when it’s to your advantage. But also consider where the hotels are located compared with the ideal location for sites you decide you want to see. Sometimes it becomes a hassle if you’re going out of the main center to get back to a hotel, taking away precious time. And don’t eat at the hotel; so many wonderful local restaurants . : )

Have a great time!

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It may indeed be very hot in Milan in August, but Florence will almost certainly be noticeably worse. It's difficult to avoid uncomfortable summer heat you're in Italy south of the Alps; just be mentally prepared for it. I'm sure you can count on good air conditioning in hotels of Marriott's class.

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While in Milan, I would recommend you visit the canal area...very nice to stroll about on the canal, have a meal and shop the stalls and enjoy a gelato of course. A day trip to Turin is also doable from Milan. Beautiful city with some French influence in the food. Genoa is a good choice to visit! Milan isn't far from the Liguria coast with so many lovely seaside towns to explore as well.

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I'd personally be at a loss to enjoy six days and nights in Milan. Bologna is a much more enjoyable city in my mind, and its proximity to Parma, Modena and Ravenna makes it an excellent headquarters. You'll eat very well indeed for 75 euros apiece in Bologna.

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Based on your erudite and excellent advice, we changed our reservations; we are now doing 4 nights in Florence, 3 nights in Lake Garda (in Sirmione), and 5 nights in Milan. Any thoughts on:

1) Particularly highly rated tours in Florence and Milan? We always like to do a half day electric bike tour with a local to learn the lay of the land, but we have come to understand that not all tours are created equal :-)

2) Ideas on day trips (via train, if possible) from Milan. We were originally planning on taking a day from Florence to go to Pisa, but we've been told that other than the leaning tower, there's not much to see/do in Pisa, so instead we will likely go to Bologna for the day.

Thanks!

Marc and Nancy

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I liked Milan a lot, mainly for its art museums. I spent so much time in them, I had none left over to wander the Art Nouveau neighborhoods I was so looking forward to. I will be returning.

You may be luckier than I was, but you should be prepared for a lot of really, really hot days. The first two side trips I thought of for Milan were Bergamo and Brescia. Bergamo has a very atmospheric old town on top of hill, with narrow streets. I wonder whether it might be a bit cooler than Milan. Brescia is also a handsome place, but it's flat and more open, probably not offering a weather break.

I hope others can come up with some suggestions in case you find you need a break in a cooler place. I don't know what would be the closest mountain destination.

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Here’s info from my trip report for a bike tour in Florence:

”Two other activities that we definitely recommend were a city bike tour with “I Bike Florence – Original City Bike Tour” and a cooking class, “Pasta Class Florence, The Art of Pasta – Authentic Recipes”. I have been to Florence a couple of times. The bike tour took us to some of the places I hadn’t seen previously, and it was an overall fun experience for both of us. We saw so much during the three hours! Our guide, Martina, was excellent with lots of info, too.”