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Opinion on AirBnBs in Italy - 2 Bad Experiences

I made reservations at two AirBnBs in Italy within the past month.
One in Rome and one in Firenze.

The one in Rome was in a great location (Trastevere) near the Viale di Trastevere and a grocery store on that Street. The interior of the apartment was quite beautiful and the place was the home of the owner and her daughter. They decided to use the apartment entirely for an AirBnB space.
Unfortunately, when I arrived at the apartment, the manager/daughter was not there. Her mother and two aunts were holding a class in the livingroom and they let me in.
I had a lot of bags and the directions they gave me were difficult, especially after getting off flights from California to Germany changing to a flight in Milano and then a train ride down to Rome.
The room I had did not have heat, the bathroom had been used by the students who were in the class.
The manager arrived later saying she had had some glass from her mobile phone get into her eye (which is pretty serious so I can understand that).
There was no Wifi even though the site said there was Wifi.
Multiple problems and no back-up manager for the apartment to call for help. I texted, called and left messages for the manager over the course of 3 or 4 days and would never get an answer.
In this case, a drip in the steam heater and the traffic at the Street level kept me awake for 4 out of 6 nights.

My second experience was in Firenze (Florence)
The owner of the Oltrarno apartment (Stefano Amorosi) was also not there when I arrived at the place I rented.
Particularly, I mentioned that I had a knee injury and that I needed quiet to sleep.
When I showed up at the apartment, a pair of cleaning people were at the door about to go into the building door. I asked in Italian if there was an elevator (when I saw the stairs).
The lady said no. I had to walk up more than 50 stairs with my bag and a bad knee.
Later I had to walk down those stairs to get to the Street.
I texted the owner through AirBnB and he said I should cancel asap to free up the space (obviously so he could use it for someone else).
Since I did not have a back up plan, I had to stay the first night.
This became a nightmare situation with AirBnB because once you start a reservtion (mine was for 7 nights) you have to call AirBnB back in the USA to cancel the rest of the stay.
I had to call 3 times (2 times I got an voice message). I tried calling in the European time zone to England and Italy (both times I got a voice message saying they were not open, call back another time).
Because of the terms of the rental for this apartment, the owner ended up taking the first nights rent and half of the rest of the days of my stay. Plus he asked me when I arrived for 30 euros in cash for the cleaning of the sheets.
I felt that I was really cheated by the Italian apartment owner.

But more than that, I do not have any faith in the enforcement of proper standards outside of the USA for AirBnB properties. In the USA, I think there are American consumer standards. Outside of the USA, I do not think owners are Always honest.
My first experience in Torino, Italy through AirBnb was good.
But how about if the listing promises something (quiet, Wifi, heat) and there is none?
I choose a property to stay in based on the above and I got none in the two cases I wrote above.
I will not use AirBnB again.

I am currently staying in a Bed and Breakfast that is owned by a friend of a friend in Florence (Firenze) and am so relieved to feel secure and safe. It is the dead of winter here in Italy. It would ruin my trip to feel discomfort and insecurity since I am traveling alone - even if I do speak some Italian and have traveled to Italy several times.

Joanna
San Francisco, California

Posted by
3941 posts

Sorry about your experiences...I've used airbnb over a dozen times in Europe (London, Florence, Rome, Venice, Atrani, Paris, Villefranche, Bath) and the US (San Fran, LA, Santa Monica, Coarsegold, San Diego, Boston)...and have had great experiences. I've used both rooms in homes/apts with the owners present, and whole apts.

I always make sure to scour the reviews...and if the listing is relatively new or has few reviews, I avoid it.

I make sure the place has the amenities I want - elevator if more than a few floors up, laundry, parking, non-smoking, wifi, ac...when in doubt...ask. If it isn't shown in the listing (eg - the elevator)...ask.

If I see more than a few mentions of dirty bathrooms or bedding/mattress, or weak wifi or sketchy/noisy neighbourhood I avoid it.

If there was something I think other people may have issue with, I'd leave it in my review (eg...couldn't get the washing machine to work in Venice; even tho we were five floors up in Rome, there was still some street noise from the bars below - nothing a white noise app wouldn't help after the first night - but I mentioned it in the review).

If I think it is something small that I think the host can remedy, I will let them know (eg - in Boston, there was no garbage can, bedside lamp or fan in the room - I told the host in a message after we left - you could send recommendations to the hosts after your stay - and he messaged back that he took my recommendations)

I've had a few great hosts who picked us up or dropped us off at train/bus stop. One who cooked us a meal and took us on a tour to a spot we wouldn't have gotten too.

The thing - to me - about airbnb is it has exploded in the last few years...and a lot of people are renting out rooms in their home and their cleanliness standards could be wildly different from yours or what you would find in a hotel. Generally, this is why you are paying less than a hotel or registered B&B. To the best of my knowledge, these places are not regulated by any agencies - just the person doing the renting, so the only standards are 'theirs'...and only truthful reviews will make them change their standards.

Your Florence one sounds really bad...the fact the guy in Florence told you to cancel, then proceeded to keep half of the money from your unused nights - wow...that's way below board there - def a ripoff. He probably knew by telling you to cancel he could keep half the money and rent the room out for those unused nights. He should have disclosed to you that he would not be refunding the whole amount. I hope you left a bad review for them...

Posted by
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Interesting. This is exactly why I avoid Air B and B. Very scarey especially if travelling alone. I try to find lower cost accomodation that is well rated and which I consider safe such as YHA hostels in England or Norway or in Italy Monastery Stays. Sorry to hear about your experience.

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931 posts

When we were looking for places to stay in Paris, our French friend encouraged us to use AirBnB. But most of the reviews on places we considered were TOTALLY incomplete. It seems that many people reviewing the EU AirBnB rentals are people that consider a room with a roof "to be the best thing since sliced bread"( I never trust a glowing, nebulous and incomplete review done by an EU citizen), or they are kids that only care if the room has a bed. Most of the times you could not find info on the beds, elevators, noise!!!, kitchen facilities if applicable, neighborhood, etc.

And when they wanted a copy of my photo ID and a recent video,etc., I said "forget AirBnB"! My VISA, Paypal, or cash, works quite well elsewhere..........thank you very much.

One of my brothers has some apartments that he rents thru AirBnB and VRBO. He said that a large percent of the time the AirBnB inquiries are nothing but trouble; and many of the AirBnb renters are the same. I think that AirBnb needs to rise above their old couch surfing beginnings.

The moral of the story is Caveat Emptor: no matter where or who you use to find a rental, do your homework! If the info is sketchy so is the rental, IMHO.

Posted by
11294 posts

I have used AirBnB only once, in Siracusa in Sicily, and it was a great experience; details here: https://community.ricksteves.com/travel-forum/italy-reviews/siracusa-airbnb-in-ortigia

However, I don't think it's about American vs. European standards. AirBnB is merely a listing service; the quality of each individual property and owner will vary. I've read of lots of problems with various US properties, too. You have to do lots of "homework" to make AirBnB work well.

" But how about if the listing promises something (quiet, Wifi, heat) and there is none?"

Your main recourse is to give feedback about these things on the AirBnB listing.