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Critique My Ambitious Itinerary Please

We arrive in Dublin 9:30 a.m. and are on the ground for 15 days in May. We are doing a self drive Ring-Around-the-Country tour. Per the advice given on this forum I have added 25% to Google Maps driving times and researched average visit times at tourist sights. Husband has driven in Scotland with no problems and 25 yr old son will drive too. We don't love cities and we do plan to spend evenings in pubs for music etc. Have I pushed us too far? I appreciate your feedback. Thanks.
Day 1: Depart airport, visit National Stud, drive thru Wicklow Mtns. Stay Glendalough
Day 2: Visit Glendalough, Kilkenny, Jerpoint Abbey. Stay Cashel
Day 3: Visit Rock of Cashel, Cahir Castle, Blarney Castle, Charles Fort & dinner in Kinsale. Stay Kenmare (long day...doable?)
Day 4: Ring of Kerry. Stay in Killarney
Day 5: Muckross House, etc, walk in Killarney Natl Park, drive thru Gap of Dunloe to Dingle. Stay Dingle (can I get there by 3:30?)
Day 6: Dingle Peninsula/Slea Head, drive thru Conor Pass and beyond Tralee. Stay Kilmallock
Day 7: Visit Grange Lios Stone Circle, Cliffs of Moher, Caherconnell Fort, hike in Burren Natl Park. Stay Galway
Day 8: Visit Cong Abbey, Ashford Castle (exterior), hike in Connemara Natl Park, Kylemore Abbey (exterior) drive thru Doo Lough Valley to Croagh Patrick. Stay Westport
Day 9: Visit Caves of Keash, Carrowmore Cemetery, Monea Castle, Tully Castle. Stay Donegal
Day 10: Visit Slieve League Cliffs, walk in Glenveigh Natl Park, RS self guided Wall Walk and Murals Walk in Derry. Stay Derry
Day 11: Visit Dunluce Castle, Busmills Distillery, Giants Causeway, Carrick a Rede Bridge. Stay Cushendall
Day 12: Walk in Glenariff Forest Park, drive thru Glens of Antrim, Carrickfergus Castle, HOHO bus or Cab tour & dinner in Belfast. Stay Ardee
Day 13: Visit Loughcrew Cairns, Trim Castle, Hill of Tara, Monasterboice. Stay Drogheda
Day 14: Visit Newgrange/Knowth, drive to Dublin, drop car by 3:00 (hopefully) Stay Dublin at Central Hotel (anyone stay there?)
Day 15: Book of Kells, Natl Museum of Archaeology, Walking Tour (if not done previous afternoon)
Day 16: Fly home 11:30 a.m.

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Carolyn, I do believe I count 14 different lodgings. That's too many by at least 10, in my opinion. Over the last few weeks I've been mulling what would be a three week itinerary for us next year and have whittled 21 days down to perhaps five different lodgings, planning to stay at each one for 2-4 days (most would be 3) and radiate out from there on day trips. I'm afraid you guys will spend all of your time checking in and out of hotels or BnB's.

Does any of that make sense? Or, have you considered just doing the south half?

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As a rough rule of thumb, every time you change lodging it eats up about 1/2 your day: travel time between sleeping destinations, packing up and getting your baggage to the car, driving to the next lodging, checking in, unpacking, etc.
So a one night stand = way less than 1 full day of seeing and doing the things you went there to see and do.
It takes 2 nights to = 1 full day of seeing what you went there to see and do.
A series of one night stands will degrade the quality of your travel experience. Sometimes in European travel, less is more.

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Thanks for your input. Maybe I should add a qualifier. Moving every day doesn't phase us. We don't unpack. We check out and hit the road in the morning and will check in when we are done for the day other than dinner and pubs. Sightseeing will be done en route to each day's destination. I guess my question is have I over scheduled us each day as far as hours of driving and sights to see. I know everyone doesn't travel like this but there have to be a few of you out there who can weigh in.

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Carolyn,
Have you researched your driving times? Do you know what your driving times are between each of your locations?

Posted by
455 posts

I used Google Maps and added 25% to their times. I do realize I have us driving 4 - 5 hours a day but we are doing our sightseeing along the way.

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10344 posts

Carolyn, your estimate of travel times uses a reasonable method.
Regarding one night stands, each traveler has their own preference that works for them.

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You are ambitious! I think I got tired just reading this! I can't comment on a lot of because my three week trip didn't make a lot of these stops because I was getting around by bus/train. My rule of thumb has always been visit one sight before lunch, have lunch, visit another sight after lunch, then look for where ever I'm sleeping for the night (best done before dark at least), and track down a place for dinner and evening entertainment. This has served me well, and kept me from the 'green blur tour' of Ireland.

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This is a very extreme itinerary. I encourage you to be more realistic about how much you can do in a day. Two night stays at a minimum are best, maybe a couple of one night stays, but no more than that. My wife and I traveled to Ireland in 2002, and I know about how much time it takes to get from place to place. Expect it to take longer than you expect it to take.

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It's very ambitious. I usually put more into my days than most here seem to favor, and this is more than I'd take on, especially day after day for the entire trip. Obviously, we all have different comfort/stress levels, so if you are OK with it, it's worth treying with reasonabvle expectations and flexibility. But I'd suggest prioritizing and being willing to drop things if you run short on time, feel rushed, or just want to slow down.

If you want to make Dublin by 3 PM on day 14, I'd suiggest getting to Newgrange early. It can be busy and you may have to wait a while to get a time slot to shuttle out to the sites. Since you're in Drigheda the night before, I assume that's your plan.

On day 7, I'd suggest dropping the hike and heading to Galway via Gort to see Kilmacduagh. It's a monastic site with several buildings, and you are more likely than not to have it to yourself.

I don't have a problem with staying in different locations every night, I have done that more often than not.

I have good results with Google driving times, and think adding 25% to be a reasonable cushion unless you drive slower than most and/or will be unusually nervous and/or cautious about driving in Ireland.

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Looks like it's your philosophy that the journey is the destination, which works when driving around Ireland. Backtracking to a home base can take longer than checking in and out of a hotel. On the other hand, some days' sightseeing may naturally form a loop back to your starting point. (The half-day move theory is based on including travel time, but travel time is incorporated into your sightseeing in this plan.)

Can you keep your plan flexible? For instance on day 3, instead of 4 castles/forts before dinner, will you give yourselves permission to skip one (probably Blarney)? If the morning is running late, will you be able to agree quickly on what to cut? (That may be easier for solo travelers who don't have to consult their partners.) If any of you particularly like to climb to the top of every tall thing, or explore every corner, or take lots of photos, then you might want more than average visit time. Charles Fort covers a large piece of land; after their 45-minute guided tour, you will want time to wander.

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Thanks for sharing your insight. We do plan to prioritize and edit if necessary. If you come back from traveling and need to rest it was a successful trip is our philosophy.

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We have been to Ireland 5 times in 10 years. Our first trip was much like what you have planned! A series of one night stands for 10 days and 9 nights on the south half of the island. I had up to 5 possible major attractions lined up for each day with the idea we would scale back if necessary.
We managed at least 2 major stops and a few times 3. And we ran pretty hard, usually driving 3-4 hours/day if I recall. We didn't ever do that again! We now take smaller chunks, roughly 1/4 of the Island and spend 2 weeks and minimum 2 nights at each lodging location. One of our best trips involved 1 week of B&B's and 1 week in a self catering cottage with day trips from there,
Many people go with the idea that a trip to Ireland will be a once in a lifetime opportunity (and we did too) but end up returning again and again. I guess if you were absolutely positive this would be your ONLY trip there, then maybe a whirl-wind, Green-blur trip might be advised with up to 2-3 main attractions per day (if you are lucky). Otherwise I also urge you to scale back. If you do proceed with your ambitious itinerary, be sure to prioritize the stops and attractions ahead of time so that your most important must-see list has the best chance of being fulfilled!
Regards
Dan

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Driving through the Gap of Dunloe is quite slow, 5 - 10 mph in our experience in the section from Kate's Cottage up to the summit, due to the tight curves, the large number of pedestrians/carriages and the very narrow road width. I wasn't clear on which direction you are driving through the Gap, but if you are entering from the south (Black Valley) you'll be much happier if you aren't driving a car with a stick shift. The road in from that side is quite steep up to the summit as well as winding. We were traveling north to south and after we passed the summit and headed down I remember watching a woman coming towards us (up the hill) struggling desperately with her clutch as she tried to downshift enough to round one of the very sharp curves.
It would be educational for others if you would report back after your trip on how your itinerary worked out. Thanks