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Updated Trip Report: Bath Houses / Wine Tasting Boat / Opera Tour / St Stephen's Day Celebration

THE BATH HOUSE

Széchenyi and Gellért are the two that are most well known by tourists. But this is the RS Experienced Travelers forum and tourist baths just won’t do, so off to the RS Back Door Style Lukacs baths in Buda https://www.lukacsfurdo.hu/ . You can reach it by a short walk from the first 4/6 Tram stop after you cross the Margit Island bridge or you can take the 17 or 19 tram, both of which stop out front of the bath house.

You know those magnificent entries at Széchenyi and Gellért, nope, not here. You will be lucky to know you are standing in front of it unless you Google Maps says “you have arrived”.

Once through the unmarked iron gate you go down the winding trail past the concession window and to a door. Just a door, not much more. Through that you will find the ticket vendor. 6.000 a ticket or about $18. Your “ticket” is a plastic watch that opens things. Use it to scan the turnstiles into the interior of the bath house. Again, just a door, nothing special, that leads to some narrow winding stairs. Up one level and you will maybe find the co-ed locker room. Nothing says family adventure more than a co-ed Locker Room (edit). Now you change and put your street clothes in a locker that you open with the watch. Forget your locker number? There is a display you can scan with your watch and it will tell you which locker is yours. Oh there is a second room after the first where all the lockers are pink. That’s co-ed too …. well, I hope so. No one screamed. Don’t forget the flipflops you will need them, so you lessen the chance of contracting some sort of fungal infection.

Leaving the not screaming ladies in the pink co-ed locker room, continue down narrow halls and odd little stairs that continue without rhyme or reason and you will note a couple of large outdoor pools in the building courtyard … keep walking to the inside thermal baths. Cold, Warm, Warmer, and downright Hot. All with a capacity of 10 people in the coldest to about 40 in the Warmer pool. Temperatures are listed in C on plaques at each pool and the hottest has a recommendation which when translated says 5 to 8 minutes. I guess that’s how long to reach the state of hard boiled.

The steam room is a good example of thermal stratification at work. You walk in and the heat hammers your face and you breathing orifice sucks down hot air that you can feel in your lungs, your lips might even burn. Sit down and things are several degrees more tolerable. Don’t forget to use the hose to wash off the previous persons sweat before you sit ... or not. Flip Flops still on?? Say yes.

There is also a sauna that I did not try and whirlpool hot tub configuration in another courtyard. No time today, but done it before sort of fun.

The building is old, parts are from the 1830’s and parts from the 1930’s and parts from the 1990’s. All built upon a thermal site that was first used in the 12th century by the knights of the order of Saint John. The paint is well….. ehhhhhh. But the place is clean. I had to get a dehumidifier for my bathroom to stop the shower grout from getting … you know. But in this place, nothing is growing anywhere. Spotless, but alas old.

While there I heard one couple speaking English (good English, like in America) and four kids who were the victims of a bad upbringing speaking German. Everyone else that I heard was speaking Hungarian. The place on a weekday at 11am was at pretty much at an ideal capacity. Full, but not so much that it became an issue. More people for people watching. There are also gender specific locker rooms and private cabana rooms, for a price, that you can change in. I found site with "realistic" photos. https://ar.tripadvisor.com/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g274887-d279411-i328076454-Lukacs_Thermal_Bath_and_Swimming_Pool-Budapest_Central_Hungary.html

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Such a good experience to try. You are braver than I would have been about coed changing rooms.

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I need to fix my post. Co-ed Locker Room. The changing is done in individual 3 foot x 3 foot closets, located in the Locker Room.

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I guess at 11am, you didn't use the Beer Spa. Thanks for this report and the link. I enjoy these hot bath places but I am not into the textile-free/naked ones.

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WINE NIGHT ON THE DANUBE

After the backdoor bathhouse afternoon I went back to where I am staying and changed for the evening wine event. There is a local organization called WineLovers that holds a wine tasting events about 8 times a year. Tonight is the river event. Again this is a thing that is off the radar for tourists which for me makes it even more special. The organization has rented the largest sightseeing boat on this part of the Danube for the venue https://wineloversrendezvenyek.hu/river-night/images/egyeb-rendezvenyek3.webp .

The event started at 6pm from a dock not far from the Buda end of the Chain Bridge. Take the M2 to Batthyány tér, then the 19/41 tram one stop and about a 5 minute walk to the lower embankment from there. The cruise began at 7pm and continued until 9pm, then they finally had to run everyone off the boat close to 10pm. The weather was downright perfect. Tickets were about $35 each.

Set up on board were not less than 40 Hungarian wineries. Samples from each were free and came with all the explanation necessary to learn a little about Hungarian oenology. Since there were no sales there was no pressure. You just keep getting more pours and talking to the staff from the wineries. Unexpected were the pours. Generally, about 1dL, which isn’t much smaller than a small pour at a restaurant in the US. In other words to try it all you had to use the wine spittoons placed with each winery table or you would not get home in one piece. There was food which was fairly well priced plates of Hungarian meats and cheeses that you bought by the weight of the plate.

The winery representatives by and large all spoke English, and while I suspect there were some tourists on the boat I never heard anything but Hungarian all night .... except when I started a conversation in English.

In addition to the wine, is darn near impossible not to enjoy the evening views on the Budapest stretch of the Danube. This sort of thing: https://takemyhearteverywhere.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/IMG_6708-768x1024.jpg Although my pictures only show one glass :-( https://1drv.ms/f/c/c9f4c533eb93d92e/EnNkyRt-PsFFileJuCOSndQBem-L5xx09WwO52pUIOFneA?e=EVjD3E Some often advise against traveling in the winter because the days are too short .... and what is wrong with that when you have the lights of Budapest even earlier in the day?

I was fortunate to run into my favorite local wine guide at the event and she took some time to translate and show me her favorites. If you want to do a winery tour or go to a few bars with a guide, she would be the one. Also good for local cultural tours. Lucia Gerard, +33 6 2217 5616 (whatsapp) [email protected] https://gerardevent.com/

The best for me this night was a new vineyard that is owned by a Jewish American that has already won some awards. I had already fallen for the pinot gris before I found out that all of their wines were kosher. I am taking the names to Kadarka, my favorite wine bar, and going to try and talk the owner into getting a few cases as my private stock when I am there. He actually did that with a white Kadarka wine that I like.

These are worth it if you are in town and if you enjoy the subject. The next events are:
September 27: The best 100 wineries at the Corinthia Hotel
November 22: Bordeaux at the Corinthia Hotel
December 29: Sparkling wine at the Intercontinental Hotel

https://wineloversrendezvenyek.hu/?utm_source=winelovershu&utm_medium=referall&utm_campaign=winelovers-nyito

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Thanks for the heads up. I will be there in September and will make it a point to get to the Gellert bath. Last year I went to Rudas and Széchenyi. Very different experiences, but I enjoyed them both. Regina

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Yes, those and Lukacs are all different.

Széchenyi was the youngest group and about 2/3rds tourist; but still quite a few locals. Of the three I visited in the last week, it was the most entertaining outside. We went early afternoon and it was suprisingly not crowded.

Lukcas was almost entirely local, or expat and that made it more of a local experience. This was also the oldest group, but also the most diverse (the expats). Half the cost of the others and I think the best inside thermal pool configuration a historic old building but not necessarily a beautiful building but very Hungarian in style.

Gellert almost all tourists except some old Hungarians who have probably been going there since Stalin was in power. Absolutely beautiful place and maybe the most comfortable for a full day, spa, massage, drinks, lunch and relaxing experience. But closing 1 October for more than 2 years of renovations.

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THE OPERA HOUSE TOUR
My visiting friends wanted to do this too. So, yesterday, we went.
This is excellent, especially the view from the stage at the end of the video: https://youtu.be/o9sU-SmNXDQ?si=eKj4wk1Z3jaQFnwW

This used to be a reasonably priced, and a nice tour. Now it’s 10,500 Ft (about 25 euro) which is sort of disappointing. For your ticket price you do get about a 40-minute tour and a 10-to-15-minute performance done on the main staircase, which is sort of nice. In the Hungarian language the tours are 5.800 euro which is a better deal for the locals. There is also an extended tour that includes the stage, but its 22.000 Ft. I got to be on the stage once. Pretty impressive standing at the front and looking into the house. The opera in Vienna only charges 15 euro, but to be fair to the Hungarians the Hungarian State Opera is significantly more beautiful and impressive than that shack in Vienna. Not sure that the Vienna tour comes with the performance and that might be a bit of the difference in cost. We bought the tickets at 11am. The 3pm tour was sold out so we did the 4pm tour and it also sold out during the day. So every tour appears to be a sellout. So the price is too low.

The tour was with about 30 people. The guide spoke excellent English and had a voice that could be heard. The history and the background was interesting and the rooms that we visited were beautiful. After walking through its hard to not want to come back and see a performance.

A few interesting facts. The opera had between 1200 and 1300 seats but no longer. They recently replaced them with larger and more comfortable, but still identical in appearance, seats and they reconfigured the orchestra pit a bit, so the seating now is right at 1000 which helps keep the intimate feel of the venue.

Ticket pricing is dynamic. The guide says that on the floor (orchestra / stalls) is 50 euro to 150 euro depending on the performance and when you buy. So, book far in advance for the best prices. The dynamic pricing might work to the advantage of locals ... not sure, but I hope so. Most, if not all, performances sell to near capacity. That means a few scattered single seats might be left. Two hours before show time you can walk in and buy standing room on the balcony for 10 to 15 euro. Apparently, the acoustics are best there but the view is only about 60%. Boxes you must buy all four seats in the box. The royal box can be purchased but its in the thousands for I think 10 seats.

I picked a few performances in November at the Hungarian and Vienna houses, and the Vienna house was about a third more expensive then the Hungarian opera house, so prices have gone nutz everywhere.

It was once a very local venue. All walks of life attended, that might have been because of communist ideology, or it may have predated that. I have no idea, but I remember 20 years ago obviously working-class locals dressed to the nines in 30-year-old dresses and suits ... the absolute best of what they had. They walked in and sat with the executive couple in designer suits and dresses and everyone talked. Those were special nights. I haven’t been in 3 years. That last trip was maybe half locals but based on some threads recently maybe locals are a minority these days. That would be sad. I am hoping that having to buy a full box (locals I am guessing are more likely to go as a family or group and use four seats) and the heavily discounted season tickets and the dynamic pricing will work for the locals.

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After walking through the place again, if anyone thinks that a performance here is only, or primarily, about the music or only about the architecture or only about only one factor, I think they will be missing out on a lot. Bottom line. Hmmm. Sort of pricy. If you are into cultural experiences, then just bite the bullet and buy a performance ticket and read the history instead of the tour. If you are into architecture but not music or the cultural experience, then take the tour for a remarkably beautiful Neo-Renaissance / Baroque interior. If you are into music but not the cultural experience then the tour and buy a CD.

This is very useful: https://www.opera.hu/en/tickets/informations/faq/

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ST STEPHEN'S DAY STREET OF HUNGARIAN FLAVORS

Last day of my guests in Budapest. YEA! So down to the Street of Hungarian Flavours at Várkert Bazaar, part of the St. Stephen's Day celebration. This year the festival ran from 17 to 20 August. https://welovebudapest.com/en/toplist/top-programmes-on-saint-stephen-s-day-in-budapest-2025/

This events begin in Vorosmarty ter and continues across the Chain Bridge to the Buda embankment and then more up on Castle Hill. As part of it, the only part i got to this years, they close the road that runs the river embankment in Buda from the Chain Bridge to the Erzsébet Bridge and they line the road with Hungarian food vendors. As a result of the location the 19/41 tram is closed.

This, like everything else about St. Stephen's Day here, was designed for the local population and not for tourists. I don’t know if there was a rule for the vendors, but in the most unusual fashion not a sign or a menu was shown in English. Nothing. Among the thousands that attended I didn’t hear any language other than Hungarian. I am certain there were tourists there, just so few they were not noticeable. But not to worry, most Hungarians speak some English so participating wasn’t hard at all and everyone was friendly and welcoming and patient.

Most of what was being offered was food and drink. All mom & pop vendors. Cheese, sausages, stuffed cabbage, fried pig and duck fat (darn good), lángos, gulyás, honey (lots of honey of every description), dried fruits and pickled vegetables, some local craft beers (but none of the big names), some small palinka mfgs. a few small wineries, kürtőskalács (chimney cakes), and one building full of cakes and tarts.

For people who want to do local cultural events, this is a good one.

Tonight, the fireworks show. And "show" is a pretty good description because while I think the fireworks show is the best I have ever seen, it’s not just fireworks. It’s a light show projected on the buildings and monuments along the river, it music pipped up and down the river, its history lessons and speeches. But again, it’s for Hungarians so no English. Second best fireworks show I have seen would be the fireworks over the opera house in Sydney Harbor.

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Sad to say Gellert bath is closing 1 October. It will remain closed for more than two years.

Oh no! That was one of my top contenders to visit, as I've read so much about how beautiful it is. Rats! They couldn't have waited one more month? Sigh.

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Sometimes life .... well, you know. Ask TTM about Rudas, that might be a good substitute. I've never been.

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ST STEPHEN'S DAY / STATE FOUNDATION DAY FIREWORKS DISPLAY
https://media.tacdn.com/media/attractions-splice-spp-674x446/06/71/a8/42.jpg

One of the websites says that the fireworks display in Budapest on St. Stephen's Day is the largest in Europe. Might be. Don’t know. But it is the most spectacular I have ever seen, and I have seen some good ones.

20 August is a friends birthday so she always gets a fireworks show just for her. We started out as a group of 8 to a restaurant called Ocean Sushi at 6pm. Yes, sushi. Budapest has such a large Asian population that Asian food is common and very good. The restaurant wasn’t far from the Pest side of the Chain Bridge so we walked down to see the show.

The river front on both sides is wired for sound from the Margrit Island Bridge to the Erzsébet Bridge. G-d bless the Hungarians; they have kept the holiday a Hungarian celebration. The show begins with audio description (in Hungarian) of the importance of the evening. Then throughout the presentation there are history lessons and national music. Yes, this is very much a celebration of national pride. Sure, tourists are there, but the majority language is Hungarian.

The Chain Bridge, the Castle and the Parliament get major light shows projected on them. The themes follow the history lessons. This year the laser show was a significantly larger part of the evening, but the fireworks stole the night.

Despite the number of people, very orderly and calm.

Here is the overall https://youtu.be/inf0ADYlIb0?si=D4vUkmNfpeSu74zp

But the up close personal views are better
https://youtube.com/shorts/VExHz5a9Huc?si=WqfDGIdzRBhbbiTS
https://youtube.com/shorts/MAdluWFndcI?si=eI9XhxbfHLeCLnsn