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Peloponnese Trip Planning

Hello travelers,

My fiance and I are planning a trip to Greece in late September/early October, and what originally began as an idea to visit some Greek islands has now become a trip to various towns in the Peloponnese. I am interested in hearing from experienced Peloponnese travelers about must-visit destinations and how much time to spend in each place. Here's a rough idea of what we are considering for an itinerary:

  • Fly into Athens
  • 2 nights Athens
  • 3 nights Napflion
  • 2 nights Monemvasia
  • 3 nights Kardamyli
  • 3 nights ??? (possibly Kefalonia?)
  • Drive back to Athens to fly out next day

Some relevant facts:
- We'll be coming from west coast of US, so will need some time to adjust to the time difference. Because of this we are thinking of beginning in Athens so we don't need to drive immediately upon arrival, but ending our trip with Athens could also be doable.
- We're in our early 30s.
- We're somewhat flexible on trip length, but are aiming for approximately two weeks.
- We want to visit quieter towns and fishing villages and get a more authentic Greek experience. We value quaint coastal towns and quality food and wine. We want to avoid touristy places with overcrowded beaches, clubs, big hotel chains, etc.
- We would like to enjoy time at the beach and see some ruins.

Questions:

Are there any places we should consider visiting, based on our preferences, or any places we are currently thinking about visiting that we should reconsider? Nothing is set in stone yet.

Will driving or parking be an issue at any of these locations? I'm assuming driving will be the most tricky getting in and out of Athens.

Is Kefalonia worth visiting? The pictures look beautiful.

Thanks so much in advance for any guidance and recommendations!

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We did a very similar trip. We are in mountain time fwiw. We did do the driving to Nafplio upon landing, stopping at the Corinth canal en route (do this). I guess it depends how you handle jet lag, but for us, the drive was fine. In any case, I wonder about your two nights at Monemvasia and 3 in Kardamyli. I know people like to have a base, and drive from there, and we do not (too much driving), but Monemvasia is small. Unless you have things in the area that you want to spend time seeing/doing, the rock itself can be explored in a few hours. We arrived at 5p, which was perfect bc day-trippers were leaving. We walked around for several hours, ate, etc.; had it much to ourselves (July 2018), then left at noon the next day. If you are committed, you could do a day trip to Kiparissi, which is north, but takes about 90 minutes of driving. Its not touristed as much as the other places you list, probably bc of the time it takes to get there. Google it for consideration. Kardamyli was ok imo, but not great. The town itself is small, kind of sleepy, and easily navigated in a day/night. The coast it is on is much bigger, but is also very touristed. If you go south of Kardamyli (which you will pass en route from Monemvasia) you pass a whole area of sand beaches that are popular and packed with tourists. There are many tour buses along this whole coast. If you're thinking 3 nights, two days, that sounds about right to me. I didnt go to Kefalonia, so cant speak to that. But we did go in the Arkadia mountains and that was uniquely spectacular in a non-touristy, remote villages kind of way, but you pay for the experience with a lot of slow, winding road driving. That said, the Temple of Apollo at Epikurious was AMAZING (the second parthenon). We had it to ourselves. Dimitsana and Stemnitsa, and stopping in random villages en route from Olympia (also wonderful!) was a special experience. We loved Athens. We stayed for only 1 ½ days based on tepid reviews here and elsewhere and wished we had more time. We stayed in the Koukaki neighborhood and loved that. Fwiw, we are adventure sport middle aged parents of teens ;p

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Jessica regretted not having more time in Athens and you might also. You have just one full day, plus part of your first jet-lagged day. That's enough time for the Acropolis, Acropolis Museum, and maybe the Agora (which could be a good choice for arrival day). You may not want to spend much time in museums, but the National Archeological Museum is one of the best anywhere. The Keramikos and the Temple of Zeus, on opposite sides of the Acropolis, are also very worthwhile. Try to work in at least one more day in Athens, at either the start or the end. You might also consider a day trip from Athens to the nearby island of Aegina, or farther out Hydra.

I think there's good bus service between Athens and Nafplion, which could save you some of the worst driving if you want to pick up and/or drop the car in Nafplion.

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Our trip was at Easter (April) last year. We landed in Athens as it was getting dark, so headed straight to Peri’s Hotel for one night. They ordered dinner in for us, delivered to our room, and we had just enough energy to stuff the leftovers in the small fridge in our room and fall asleep. We’d planned to hit the countryside first and leave Athens for last, and had planned to go first to Rick Steves’ “backdoor” island of Hydra, getting our car after we’d finished on Hydra.

But because of rough seas, the first morning ferry from Athens’ Piraeus port to Hydra was cancelled. We waited for the second ferry, and when that was also cancelled, we found another couple to split a taxi to drive us to another port, some distance away, where we could make an easier crossing and make it to our Hydra B&B.

We’ve tended to not do one-night-stays much anymore, but this 2 1/2 week trip involved several. We did have 2 nights on Hydra, then ferried over to Ermioni to pick up our rental car from Pop’s Rentals. Their office wasn’t very quick, and they sent us to a bookstore 3 blocks away to look for a map, as they only offered a map of tiny Ermioni, not one covering the Peloponnese. The car was great and the price was good, even if the rental office didn’t make a great first impression. We headed to Napflion for the remainder of the day and 2 nights. Great market, and close to Epidavros and Mycenae. We also visited amazing Nemea, a smaller stadium and temple site to rival Olympia. We had the athletic field and the unique tunnel leading to it (with ancient athletes’ scratched-in graffiti declaring their victories) all to ourselves.

One night in/on Monemvasia. That was the only place that presented even the slightest parking challenge, and we had to park along the causeway leading to the entry gate, and walk 5-6 minutes to get to the island, then another 8 minutes to reach our B&B at about the end of the main “street.” Dinner outside, surrounded by cats eyeing the fish on our plates, was amusing and enjoyable.

By the way, oncoming drivers often cut corners on curves, drifting into our lane and heading at us, before drifting back into their lane. Beware as you approach any blind curves.

Heading down to the Mani peninsula, we used Aeropoli as our 3-night base, more remote and quieter than Kardamyli (except on Good Friday, when the church bell tolled mournfully all day long), and an excellent base for doing the amazing Mani Peninsula loop drive. We saw incredible vistas from high on ridges looking down to little towns and beaches, drove to those towns featuring old tower houses, reached an ancient land’s end site with ruins’ ornate mosaic floor tiles out in the open, just a stunning drive.

We cruised thru Kardamyli en route to Kalamata for the Easter observation at midnight. Glad we didn’t spend more time in Kardamyli, but wish we’d had more time than a night and part of the next day in Kalamata. By the way, we made an excursion up to Kastania, described in Rick’s book, in the rain - the big and tiny churches are striking.

From Kalamata, we headed to Archaea Olympia, and hired Nikki, recommended by Rick (and featured in his TV episodes) for an outstanding guided tour.

From there we headed onto the mainland, by bridge, off of the Peloponnese, and drove east, thru Galaxidi for an incredible night (wish we’d had more time, and hope to return), then Delphi and its ancient sights, before turning in the car as we reached Athens, really easy. We had 3 days to explore the capitol.

Didn’t visit Kefalonia, but Aeropoli, Kalamata, Archaea Olympia, Galaxidi, and the sights at Delphi would all be worth visiting, if you had the time and inclination. We’re spending this October 2 1/2 week trip exclusively on Crete.

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Take a look at the RS Greece tour itinerary detail. It includes all of the places you are contemplating - except Kefalonia. That will give you a good idea of what there is to see and do in each place (and maybe an idea for an inland destination). If you're planning a lot of beach time (my guess is that the water will be warm enough for short dips, maybe warmer), the time allotment looks good. Note that the beaches are pebbly, so you need water shoes. There's not a whole lot to do in Monemvasia and less in Kardamyli. And to echo others, there's a lot to see in Athens.

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Everyone has different opinions on the towns around the Peloponnese. I found Monemvasia to be more effort than the drive there there was worth. Nafplio was wonderful. We enjoyed the several nights spent in Kardamyli. Its small, but we found several restaurants that we were happy to visit more than once, a good place for drinks in the evening and we also drove down to the beaches at nearby Stoupa a couple of times to spend the day under an umbella on the beach with plenty of tavernas all around. That may be more crowded than you want, but there are also lots of smaller, less busy beaches all along the coast there.

We also spent one night in Mystras at the Mystras Inn, which has a few rooms above a restaurant. It's a quirky, tiny town. The folks who run the Inn/restaurant will drive you up (literally "up") to the top entrance to Mystras's Byzantine ruins in the morning, which we found to be really interesting to see. From there you walk down through it and come out at a lower lot where you can leave your car to drive back to the Inn. I think it's worthwhile.

Driving was generally fine. We rented at the Athens airport. You just go right onto the highway and don't have to drive in the city of Athens at all.

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I just did a 10 day trip in late May, and I imagine late September will be similar in terms of crowds (in that there were virtually none!). We had no trouble parking. Drives can be rather long, but the main highways are excellent, and even on secondary roads we had no troubles--but I did make a point to limit drives to be as efficient as possible.
We came from east coast of US, so we were able to drive the two hours from ATH airport to Nafplio, but were I coming from the west coast, I would probably stick your plan to start with Athens. We dropped our car off before going into Athens.
My strategy was to cross-reference the sites I wanted to visit with towns I thought we would enjoy. We chose Nafplio (3 nights) for visiting Epidaurus and Mycenae. Then I planned on visiting Mystras en route to Kardamyli, but we ended up going from Kardamyli--more driving than I would have liked, but it was a rainy day. While in Kardamyli (4 nights), we hiked. Then we stopped at Messini en route from Kardamyli to Dmitsana. We actually stayed in tiny Zatouna (2 nights) and hiked and visited monasteries.
We skipped Monemvasia, as we had fewer days and it did not maximize our time.
We only stayed in Athens a night, as we are sure we will return and chose to prioritize smaller places.
We also stopped at Nemea en route back to Athens. This is a wine region so you may want to read up on that.
The Bradt Guide is excellent, and I cannot recommend the Peloponnese highly enough!

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I would give Nafplio at least one more night as there is so much to explore in the area. The Mycenae, Tiryns, and Epidavros all take some time. And staying put in charming Nafplio is wonderful too.
You do not have Mystras on your itinerary! My Greek friends insisted the we include it and we were so happy that we did. It is Byzantine, an abandoned town that tumbles down the hillside, a nice change from the Greek antiquities. We actually spent a night in Sparta to visit Mystras but that isn't necessary.

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I would echo Chani's suggestion to review the RS Greece Tour. We took the tour September 2017. It checks all your boxes for desired itinerary minus Kefalonia. We had 4 nights in Athens and felt this was perfect. Following the tour we spent 4 nights in Santorini (3 would have been fine). We ended our excursion in Naxos (6 nights). WONDERFUL! Enjoy your planning and amazing Greece.

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Just to chime in on this thread, my wife and I are planning on doing just the Peloponnese this September (just focusing on certain parts, and not spending time in Athens, as we have been there before). Outline of our trip is
Day 1- Arrive Athens early morning, drive to Kardymyli area (stop Corinth canal and acrocorinth along way). We are staying in Limeni area on boutique hotel along coast, and having that as home base
Day 2-Drive Mani penisula, go through Githeon, and end up Monemvasia late afternoon. Afterwards drive back
Day 3-Explore Kardymyli, maybe up to Kastania, maybe do some hikes (Vitros Gorge) or beach time, generally explore area around us
Day 4--drive ancient messene and then on to Olympia. Maybe on way back to home base see Kalamata
Day 5--depart Kardmyli area, and drive to Mystras. Then on to Nafplio and check into AirBNB there in old city
Day 6-Nafplio sightsee. Maybe also later see Argos/Nimea/wine road areas
Day 7-Nafplio sightsee, or go to Epidavros, and/or drive to catch ferry out to Hydra for the day (find the short ferry route by driving as close to Hydra as possible)
Day 8--Nafplio sightsee, and go to Mycenae

That is the basic plan, to focus only on 2 places to stay, and use as base, to explore areas around, and not try to spread ourselves too thin other parts of Greece (although the above might do that anyway!). But this gives us flexibility to change order and things around pretty easy day to day. Will save rest of Greece for another day (although after we leave Nafplio we are headed to Athens to fly to Crete and will be there for about 10 days. Happy for any advice or comments on the schedule. Have found the following books useful: Rick's guide, Rough Guides Crete, and Brandt guide for Peloponnese. For website Matt Barrett Greece has tons of info (plus RS forum somewhat, and usual Tripadvisor forums). Tons to see in just these areas so wanted to just focus on just this part of Peloponnese.

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Athens has 3 days of activities, at least that's what we did in May. Acropolis, Acropolis Museum, National Archeology Museum, Byzantine and Christian Museum, Old Agora, Temple of Jupiter, RS tour of Athens (in guidebook). Of those, Acropolis and National Archeology Museum are #1 top sites.

As to other top sites, Mycanae is a world-class site. It's a day trip from Nafplion.

As to driving and parking, driving is pretty OK in Greece - we didn't drive but there are expressways which are fine. In old cities, only crazy people drive. We used buses to get around, and it was fine. It was easy, not expensive, and convenient. I know that Americans reflexively consider that they have to have a car. This is not the case. You can get around fine on buses and trains. Parking is always difficult in Europe, and can be expensive.

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Day 1- Arrive Athens early morning, drive to Kardymyli area (stop Corinth canal and acrocorinth along way). We are staying in Limeni area on boutique hotel along coast, and having that as home base
Day 2-Drive Mani penisula, go through Githeon, and end up Monemvasia late afternoon. Afterwards drive back
Day 3-Explore Kardymyli, maybe up to Kastania, maybe do some hikes (Vitros Gorge) or beach time, generally explore area around us
Day 4--drive ancient messene and then on to Olympia. Maybe on way back to home base see Kalamata
Day 5--depart Kardmyli area, and drive to Mystras. Then on to Nafplio and check into AirBNB there in old city
Day 6-Nafplio sightsee. Maybe also later see Argos/Nimea/wine road areas
Day 7-Nafplio sightsee, or go to Epidavros, and/or drive to catch ferry out to Hydra for the day (find the short ferry route by driving as close to Hydra as possible)
Day 8--Nafplio sightsee, and go to Mycenae

Craig, I'm just wondering if you have mapped all of these drives out. Maybe I have a low tolerance for car time--but Kardamyli to Monemvasia would be 5 hours round trip. Kardamyli to Olympia more than that. On day one, that might be a bit much as well.
We planned to do the reverse of your day 5 but nixed it -- if you are an early riser it should be fine though.

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Hello,

I want to thank everyone who replied. The comments were very helpful and I really appreciated receiving feedback on whether some of the destinations I listed were worthwhile. After doing some more research and considering the comments here, we are now considering the following itinerary:

Athens: 2 nights
Take ferry to Hydra
Hydra: 2 nights
Back to Athens to rent a car, then Delphi: 1 night
Catch the ferry from Patras to Kefalonia
Kefalonia: 4 nights
Catch ferry back to mainland
Olympia: 1 night
Napflio: 3 nights (with day trips to nearby sights)
Back to Athens via Corinth
Athens: 1 night
Fly home next day

We decided to skip Monemvasia because, as another commenter pointed out, it does not maximize our time there and it also sounds like there isn't a ton to see (though I have no doubt it's beautiful). Also, based on some of the tepid feedback, we decided to opt for Kefalonia instead of Kardamyli (or another town close to Kardamyli). Kefalonia looks beautiful and has stunning beaches, but it's off the beaten path as far as Rick Steves goes, so we are taking a chance and hoping we will enjoy it. The one complication is whether we can take our rental car onto the ferry, which is something we need to sort out.

For those of you have gone to Delphi, did you stay the night in Delphi, or did you stay somewhere nearby instead? RS says that the town itself caters to tourists and lacks charm, so I'm wondering whether it makes sense to stay somewhere nearby. Any thoughts on this are much appreciated.

Thanks in advance!