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Zugspitz Ultratrail race impact in Mittenwald?

My family is planning on a daytrip to Mittenwald from Munich to do the Karwendelbahn and if time allows hike the Spirit Gorge & waterfall. Although we have some flexibility as to which day to go, I was hoping if weather cooperates to go June 17 (Saturday) when we can use the Bayern ticket and leave before 9am. Our alternative day would be Monday, June 19 but to use the Bayern ticket we'd have to leave Munich after 9am (of course if the weather is better for Monday than Saturday this all becomes moot)

I recently discovered that there will be a ultra trail race on Saturday, June 17th in the region. The Zugspitz Ultratrail Is anyone familiar with this race and the impact on the town of Mittenwald? I don't want to travel to Mittenwald on the same day of the race if the town will be extra crazy with race participants & spectators.
Thanks!

Posted by
19630 posts

You can use the even less expensive Werdenfels Ticket to go to Mittenwald and you are not restricted on time during week days, 20 EUR plus 6 EUR each additional passenger up to 5 traveling together. ie take the 7:32 train.

Posted by
90 posts

Sam how do I find this Werdenfels ticket? When I do point to point tickets on DB site that option doesn't come up. I've seen others reference this ticket as well. We are a family of 4 (2 adults & 2 children 14 and 11). I've tried the website both in English and in German and neither time did a point to point search bring this option up, only Bayern or flexi. I'm intrigued to learn more!

Posted by
2305 posts

I've just tested it: requesting 19 Jun, dep. Munich 7:32, two adults (children up to 14 travel free), brings up as cheapest offer the Werdenfels ticket (€26).

BTW, I don't think that your trip to Mittenwald is affected by that Zugspitz event.

Posted by
19630 posts

Yes, when I look, if I enter 2 adults and 2 children, I only get option for Bayern Ticket, with no early departure allowed. Solution, consider them adults, then for 4 adults gives a Werdenfels ticket for 38 EUR and you can leave early. Apparently kids don't ride free with the Werdenfels Ticket. I don't think there is anything wrong with that, as long as you include them as adults on the Ticket. When you buy it out of a ticket machine, write the names of all travelers on the back of the ticket.

Edit: The actual DB website page (German only, use google translate) does say that kids ride free with the Werdenfels ticket. Websites sometimes are not always perfect. Apparently, when the journey planner sees kids, it defaults to Bayern Ticket, then will not show it as eligible before 9 am. When you buy the tickets, you might want to confirm this with a DB agent, even if you have to pay the 2 EUR window fee. 28 EUR is still less than 38 EUR.
https://www.bahn.de/p/view/angebot/regio/regionale-tickets/bayern/regio-ticket-werdenfels.shtml

Posted by
2305 posts

The conditions for the werdenfels ticket state very clearly:

"3.1.1 Ein „Regio-Ticket Werdenfels“ kann genutzt werden von bis zu fünf gemeinsam rei-
senden Personen.
3.1.2 Darüber hinaus können bis zu 3 Kindern im Alter zwischen 6 Jahren bis einschließlich
14 Jahren unentgeltlich mitgenommen werden.
3.1.3 Kinder nach Nr. 3.1.2 sowie Kinder bis einschließlich 5 Jahren werden ohne Fahrkarte
unentgeltlich befördert. Bei der Ermittlung der Personenzahl werden sie nicht gezählt."

So they can simply book a werdenfels ticket for two adults (€26). The children simply don't count and need not to be indicated when booking.

Posted by
12040 posts

The Zugspitz Ultratrail Is anyone familiar with this race and the impact on the town of Mittenwald? I don't know about Mittenwald, but I know about Garmisch-Partenkirchen.... I didn't even realize the race was going on until the runners starting passing me on the same hiking trails I was taking to Königshaus am Schachen. Judging from what I saw, it isn't a particularly big event.

Posted by
90 posts

Thanks everyone for the very useful information. I'm glad to hear the race would probably have little impact (thx Tom & sla019) and I'm happy to have learnt all about the Werdenfels ticket. As a follow up I had emailed the DB who like sla019 & Sam concurred that since children ride free I don't have to include them in the ticket sale.