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Traveling in Germany within 6 months of passport expiration?

Hello,

My family is taking a trip to Germany, Austria, Switzerland and the Czech Republic the first 3 weeks of September. We are entering and exiting the region via Frankfurt. We leave in 9 days. Today I was looking through out travel documents to make sure everything is in order and noticed that my passport expires on February 15th, 2016 -- a little less than 6 months from now. In the back of my head I remembered hearing that some countries have stringent requirements that your passport must not be within 6 months of its expiration. So I did some research, and am reading conflicting things.

The normal rule for most countries is that they require you to have
three months from your actual travel date before your passport
expires. Three months is generally the longest amount of time you can
stay in a foreign country without any sort of visa, but some
countries—especially in the Schengen region of Europe—are expanding
that requirement to six months.

PASSPORT VALIDITY: Must be valid for at least three months beyond your
planned date of departure from the Schengen area and contain at least
two blank pages

Some Schengen countries assume all travelers will stay the full three
months allowed for visa-free visitors, meaning a visitor may not be
admitted unless his/her passport is valid for at least six months,
regardless of the duration of the stay.

US citizens in possession of a valid US passport (on the planned date
of departure from Germany, your passport should have at least another
three months validity) do not need a visa for airport transit, tourist
or business trips (for stays up to 90 days).

So some sites say 3 months/90 days is sufficient and others say that Schengen countries are changing to 6 months. I'm hoping its the former, obviously. The fact that the US State department page on Germany says 90 days give me hope but then again the state department press release I linked to above says sometimes Schengen countries require 6 months.

If I had discovered this sooner, I'd get my passport renewed, but with only 9 days to go (and only 5 business days) that doesn't seem feasible. Is there anything I can do to make sure I don't run into trouble on this trip?

Thanks!
Myron

Posted by
1528 posts

We went to Germany in April with Passports that expired in August using your second quote above as the basis. We had no problem. Gary

Posted by
21164 posts

It is not what the State Dept says that matters, it is what the passport inspector at the other end that decides that matters. Also, the airlines will look at your passport when you check in, if the gate agent got a memo from management that says not to let anyone on the plane that does not have 6 months left on their passport, you will not get on the plane. You can get it done using an expediting firm or getting an emergency appointment at a US Passport processing center.
You still have time, so get cracking or you will be taking a chance that could be expensive to you if the dice don't fall your way.
Edit: OK the German Missions in the United States have the following statement:

US citizens in possession of a valid US passport (on the planned date of departure from Germany, your passport should have at least another three months validity) do not need a visa for airport transit, tourist or business trips (for stays up to 90 days).

So you may be OK. But I renew at 6 months, since just because you are "planning" to return in 2 weeks, doesn't mean you have to. You could legally stay the full 90 days. And then there would be less than 3 months left on the passport. Italy does require 6 months and they are Schengen too.

Posted by
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I have an appointment scheduled for Tuesday morning at the Seattle passport processing center. Hoping they can get me squared away.

One thing I'm slightly concerned about: to apply for a new passport, I have to turn mine in...and is there any guarantee they'll be able to get me the new one in time? As things currently stand, it sounds like there's a possibility of a problem but I'll probably be OK...but I turn in my current passport and don't get the new one by 8/31, I'll definitely have a problem.

Posted by
1994 posts

The SF office does same day. I would think Seattle could also. Be sure you bring everything they request on website, including air ticket.

Posted by
3398 posts

I think you'll be fine getting your new one on time, especially since you already have your appt for this week. I made the same mistake once with less than two weeks to spare before departure and they expedited one for me in just 3 days. This was at the Los Angeles office. It cost me a small fortune but it was certainly less expensive than being turned away at the check-in counter at the airport.
There is a nightmare story about this that was posted on this forum recently...I want to say it was in the Italy thread?
You're going about this in the right way...just relax, tell them exactly what you need when you go in on Tuesday, and they'll take care of it. You aren't the only one!

Posted by
9 posts

It cost me a small fortune but it was certainly less expensive than
being turned away at the check-in counter at the airport.

How much did it cost? From what I've read I thought it only cost $60 extra to get it expedited, which doesn't sound like a small fortune...

There is a nightmare story about this that was posted on this forum recently...I want to say it was in the Italy thread?

I've read that Italy is more stringent about the 6 month policy.

You aren't the only one!

I know, but I'm still kicking myself over this. Originally we were going to take this trip in June (at which point I had plenty of time left on my passport...) but then it got pushed back to September and I didn't think to check the expiration date on my passport when we rescheduled the trip :(.

Anyhow, thanks everyone for the information and the encouragement!

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9 posts

I got my new passport today! They were able to do it in 2 days. It just cost the $60 fee.

Posted by
16895 posts

We've been lucky to have an emergency passport office in Seattle for a long time, but it's also nice to see that the list of locations has doubled since several years ago.