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train to Salzburg -- no seat reservation on some trains?

I'm looking at travel from Munich to Salzburg in Sept 2024. Searching on the DB site the train I found a train EC 217 but when I went thru the purchase process it said "All seats already fully booked". Since I don't want to stand the whole way I looked at another train listed for €29.00, train BRB RE5. But when I start the purchase process the only options shown are the Bayern-Ticket and similar-sounding variations with unlimited journeys on the ticket that day. But there is no option to get a reserved seat. Since the train 20 minutes later says it is fully booked I'd prefer not to show up for this one and find it's standing-room only.

Are there any options to get a reserved seat on this train? Or, for that matter, could they just not be releasing seats four months or so out?

Posted by
4922 posts

Regional trains dont have reserved seats. Arrive a bit early and board as soon as possible, and grab the first available seat, and you shouldn't have a problem.

Posted by
6664 posts

If your regional train ORIGINATES in Munich, it will be EMPTY when the doors first open to passengers from the platform.

Posted by
19115 posts

EC 217 goes from Saarbrücken, Germany to Graz, Austria, the only train to make such a long trip and go between Munich and Salzburg all morning. That might be why it sells out; not just Munich to Salzburg riders.

Posted by
961 posts

You won't have a problem getting a seat on the RE train.

Posted by
1785 posts

Sep 2024 is ages away. So far away in fact that the railways probably do not even know yet with which consist they will run the EC 217.
So as a result the seat inventory has not been loaded yet. And because the booking system has been programmed by people who cannot imagine that someone would be booking trains for September already now the system does not deal with this situation well.

So the system tries to find a seat for you, doesn't find one, and throws an error. And since it cannot distinguish between "there are no seats because they are all gone" and "there are no seats because they have not been loaded yet" the message can be a bit confusing.

Here is the thing: If trains sold out weeks in advance they would be useless. Especially in Germany people would not accept that. There would be hell to pay. DB management would be sacked. The Verkehrsminister would have to answer questions in parliament.

So if you are looking at trains more than a few months in the future, and getting odd results, it is just an artefact of you dealing with a system that does not expect people to buy tickets, and reserve seats that far in advance.

So do not worry. You will be able to reserve seats for EC 217 closer to your travel date.

Posted by
6921 posts

I wouldn't bother with EC217. Long-distance trains in Germany have a significant risk of delay, whereas regional trains still perform quite well. The numerous BRB (slowest option but good with Bayern ticket), Railjet or Westbahn trains are the way to go IMO.

Posted by
1785 posts

You can use the fact that EC271 has a risk of delay to your advantage. Buy a very cheap Supersparpreis Europa in advance. See how it becomes a Flexpreis ticket as soon as the train is significantly delayed...