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Summer train prices - do they change?

Long story short,
Looking at buying Koblenz to Nurenburg train tickets for July 25th. The ICE is about 72 euro per person. And there are none of the "saver-type" prices, only Flexpreis - and this is the first day they have gone on sale.
If I look for prices in March, they are like half that price and the Sparpreis are available.

My questions
1. Are the Sparpreis rates sold out? or where they never offered?
2. If they were not offered, do they offer them as we get closer?
3. Am I pretty much guaranteed that the rate will NOT go down, so if I know I am going on this route, I might as well book now?

I know there are other options like the D-ticket- which I probably will get, but for this longer ride, I want to take the fast ICE train.

Thanks!

Posted by
2480 posts

And there are none of the "saver-type" prices, only Flexpreis

I can see saver fares starting at €31.90. You probably looked a little too early, because the prices are displayed with a 6 month time limit (or the Bahn was a few days late). Saver fares don't get any cheaper .

Posted by
110 posts

To clarify. The later train is that price you quoted. . But all the others are higher. And they don’t have saver fares (just looked). I am the furthest thing from a German train expert, just surprised in the first day the saver fares sold out for most of the trains.

Posted by
2480 posts

For July 25, I'm seeing a normal price curve with high fares between 10:48 and 14:48 and lower ones before and after:

Time

7:48 31.90€
8:48 39.90€
9:48 51.90€
10:48 and later: 71.30€
15:48 39.90€
16:48 35.90€
17:48 31.90€

BTW, did you enter one or two travellers in the search field?

Posted by
7072 posts

For the DIRECT ICE trains to Nuremberg, the 6:48 and the 10:48 show a price of €72 each. That is kinda weird. But I have no way to know how DB handles saver fares for individual trains. Perhaps popular runs in high demand offer very few saver fares when they first go on sale. Perhaps less popular runs at other hours offer more.

But the 8:48 is available at €40 p.p. - with 2 persons entered.

Posted by
5438 posts

I am also seeing sparpreis tickets for that day. OP, what website are you using? If you've been using the Dbahn site without luck, try clearing your cookies.

Posted by
110 posts

using this site:
nt.bahn.de/en
the 10:xx, 12, and 14 trains do not have saver rate, the earlier and later ones do.

Which is fine if that is how it works, I get midday is going to cost more, just wanting to verify I shouldn't wait to see if the saver opens up

Posted by
7072 posts

9:16 - 14:54 by regional train (€55, no pre-purchase needed) - or at any other hour later that day - is of course an option if you do not want that 8:48 ICE trip at €40 ea.

I cannot imagine saver fares coming available for the higher-priced fares later on.

Posted by
2502 posts

July is ages away. You do not need to buy train tickets that far in advance (and hardly anybody does this). So what you are looking at is that not all saver fares are loaded.

Generally speaking, if you are looking months in the future, and not seeing what you expect, you are looking at incomplete data.

Posted by
110 posts

random data point- the prices have actually gone up for July 25th. There still are no Sparpreis showing past July 15th - which has been the status since the tickets went on sale. Would DB not load all the fares at once, or should I just assume this is the price I will have to pay? Not that 60 euro will make or break me, but if I don't have to spend that much, I don't want to of course.

Posted by
21162 posts

I am seeing anywhere for 55.80 EUR for 2 (that is a late train that arrives in Nuremberg after midnight) to 163 EUR for early and mid day trains. The 8:48 train is 103.80 EUR for 2, and less for the 16:48 and 18:48 trains

Posted by
110 posts

correct sam - the early trains have the lower rates - I was asking about the midday trains, again, I get they cost more, but on day one of sale, they never had the saver rates available is what I was asking about

Posted by
110 posts

update with data point- the lower price fares (Sparpreis, etc) are now listed as available for my itinerary (which is slightly different now due to route changes) - but they were not listed previously

just a FYI