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Plans in Flux! Short Southern Germany Roadtrip 5/20-5/25

Hello Forum Hive Mind!

We are spending about two weeks in Germany spanning end of May/early June with a 4-5 night rented car road trip around Bavaria/Southern Germany at the beginning of our stay (~5/20-5/25). Our plan HAD been to spend 1 night in Bamberg, 1 night in Munich, 2 nights in Garmisch-Partenkirchen, and 2 nights somewhere in the Dolomites (Italy).

We are now re-evaluating plans after realizing that GP and/or Dolomites are at least partly shut for off-season at this time. For both GP and Dolomites, we were really looking forward to being out in nature (I had a gorgeous hike along Partnachklamm a few years ago), doing extended (easy) day hikes, and stopping at beer gardens/refugios along the way. Eating and drinking well, but not fancy, are key for us, and we normally avoid the touristy thoroughfares wherever possible.

Based on Internet research, it seems the refugios and funiculars of the Dolomites will be mostly closed, and we suspect restaurants and other places we want to go might be accordingly in off-season mode. I don't know if it's a similar situation with GP, so would be keen to get anyone's insight/experience there. We are likely canceling the Dolomite portion of the trip (open to any advice there) and may scale back Garmisch to a day hike instead of 2 night stay based on the feedback provided here.

If we do cancel or reduce the mountain portion of our roadtrip, there is a question of how best to redistribute the time: we were thinking possibly 1) to stay a second night in Bamberg (had been arriving afternoon and leaving next morning) but could get more time to visit local breweries there 2) to spend a second night in Munich, and get a chance to go to the Staatsoper 3) to go spend time out in nature somewhere else--perhaps Tegernsee, Constance, Fussen? and/or 4) visit some other city that would be a distinct and worthwhile experience given we are already going to Bamberg and Munich--Würzberg or Rothenburg ob der Tauber maybe? We're especially fond of light hiking, picnicking, beer gardens, bicycling, and boating/kayaking.

We are also open to bold ideas--traveling East, West, or South from Munich, crossing country lines, etc.--but half of our party will be coming from Heidelberg/Frankfurt while the other will be heading North to Berlin after the road trip, so those areas are out. Otherwise, anything is possible!

Your thoughts, experiences, and advice would be much appreciated!

Sincerely,

Rick James' Europe

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"...half of our party will be coming from Heidelberg/Frankfurt while the other will be heading North to Berlin after the road trip, so those areas are out...we were really looking forward to being out in nature... doing extended (easy) day hikes..."

If nature/outdoor activities are your priority, then what about the Rhine Castle trail in the Middle Rhine Valley? This is northwest of Frankfurt. The trail connects old-world towns and food/drink options like these:

Bingen: http://www.michaelleukel.photography/images/gallery/ML-11048-Winter-3_1458122215.jpg
Oberwesel: http://www.voos-camper.de/wohnmobil_mosel_rhein_2011/image-oberwesel_2.JPG
Oberwesel, Günderodehaus terrace: http://www.christiane-geldmacher.de/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/rhein2014-003.jpg
St. Goar/Rheinfels Castle: https://www.rheinburgenweg.com/fileadmin/_migrated/pics/21pauschale_bild1_01.jpg
St. Goar, Landgraf terrace: http://sr47.de/t/pics/56e71e44de.jpg
Boppard, Gedeonseck terrace: http://ext.pimg.tw/samlucky5711/1379089584-1923285561.jpg?v=1379089585

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Beautiful area! Thanks Russ. We will recommend those spots to my parents who will be flying into Frankfurt a couple days ahead of us, and traveling around before meeting us in Munich (or Bamberg depending on how plans change).

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Hi,

If you can fit the Dolomites in, I'd go. There are three lifts open during your stay. How many would you need for a short stay? With a car, the Passes in the immediate area are spectacular drives.... Gardena Pass, Sella Pass, Pordoi Pass and Campolongo pass. People live there, so you'll find restaurants, shops, etc. open. I can't imagine having a problem in mid to late May for a few nights.

Paul

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Quick update: looking into a stay in the Dolomites after all, we contacted Hotel Armenterola in San Cassiano, which was recommended by a friend. Armenterola responded they're closed until mid-June and although trails will be open late May, all of the refugios and restaurants in the area would be closed, and the temperature would still be quite cold for outdoor activities.

Obviously San Cassiano is not the only area of the Dolomites one can stay, but it looks like Val Gardena, one of the bigger spots, might be our only choice. So we're still a bit on the fence, but thinking perhaps we should save the Dolomites for a time when we can get the full experience. We mainly want to avoid getting to an incredible place and thinking "this would be so nice if only it were a month later."

If we do omit the Dolomites, I think we will stay a full day in Bamberg (2 nights) to visit some breweries, one night in Munich, and then 2 nights in the Garmisch Partenkirchen area, hiking the Partnachklamm one day and either Zugspitze or Tegernsee the following day.

Any additional thoughts or advice are most welcome!

Thanks!