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Nuremberg Day visit

Train from Munich @ 6:57, Rtn @ 17:57. Will I have enough time to visit Doc. Ct./Zep Field and walk the Old Town? I'm thinking Trial Courtroom will be too much on top of the above.

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You can click on "Edit" under your name to correct the title of your post. That will make it more likely folks familiar with Nuremberg will notice it.

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The Docu-Center opens at 9:00 (at 10:00 on weekends), you will arrive at 8:01, and the trip by tram (#8, leaves in front of the station, access through the underpass) takes only 12 minutes. So in order not to waste any time I would first visit the Old Town and the Documentation Center after. Plan about 3 hours for it. In contrast to the Docu-Center the Zeppelin field is not worth the visit. Contrary to what tourist guides like to tell, it was NOT the place where Hitler delivered his speeches.

BTW. There is also a train to Munich every half hour in the evening, so there is no time pressure

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TY AC for the correction...it was early morning here in Jersey when I wrote it...lol.

Re; the 3 hours...is that for the Old Town walk? If Zep Field is not where Hitler made the speeches, where was it then?

ty

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TY AC for the correction...it was early morning here in Jersey when I wrote it...lol.

Sa019: Regarding the 3 hours...is that for the Old Town walk? If Zep Field is not where Hitler made the speeches, where was it then?
I have a res on the train bk, are you saying I can take any train if I miss that one?
ty

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What kind of ticket is your reservation on?

Different tickets have different restrictions. Day of the week may matter, too. What day?

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You may be right on the flexibility. Its a DB ICE 510 . It's mostly all in German so a bit hard to understand. It does say Regional trains can be boarded at any time on departure date. I was just thinking since it is ICE it was restricted.

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an ICE is not a regional train.

The DB is the company who run the German trains - Deutsche Bahn.

The ICE is the type of train -- Inter City Express

The 510 is the train number. I'm surprised that you will be on that train because it doesn't go to Nuremberg. What I find for 510 is München Hbf 19:28 - Stuttgart Hbf 21:45-21:51 - Mannheim Hbf 22:29-22:37 - Frankfurt Flughafen Fernbf. 23:08-23:13 - Wiesbaden Hbf 23:44

That's in the opposite direction.

None of those say anything about what type of ticket you have. Does it say anything like "Spar-Preise" on it?

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The 6:57 you refer to is ICE 602, arriving at 8:01 on its way to Hamburg.

Did you pay €19.90 for that leg or €58?

The 17:57 (reaching Munich 19:06) is ICE 1601 / ICE 1711. Again, what did you pay for that leg?

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LOL...My Bad..the 510 was the "sample" ticket. I 'm on the ICE 602 It says "Super Sparpreis

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If Zep Field is not where Hitler made the speeches, where was it then?

The rallies took place in the nearby Luitpoldhain, where all nazi buildings were blown up by the US army in 1945. The field around Hitler's Congress Hall has never been completed. The only part that has, the still visible tribune, was the gathering place of the army, which was never at good terms with H and never was "honoured" with one of H.s theatralic speeches. All events related to the nazi party rallies you can see in the Riefenstahl film and any other documents took place in the Luitpoldhain (which you can visit, of course, but it's just a large green nowadays, which is in use for the famous Nuremberg Classic Open Air in summer.

Plan about 3 hours for it.

i.e., for the docu center.

It says "Super Sparpreis

So - no flexibility, you are bound to the trains listed on your ticket.

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TY sla019. I will check out the other location. Interesting info.

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as sla019 says, with that ticket you will be on the exact train named or your ticket isn't valid.

The regional information is if you are making connections to the named train by regional trains or S-Bahn - which doesn't appear to be the case for you.

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TY sl19 and nigel for the feedback..best to make sure of the plans.

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the 3 hours...is that for the Old Town walk?

Here is a proposal for an introductory three hours tour of the ancient city. It leads to the main points of interest along the main south nord axis:

  1. Assuming the train station as your starting point, take the underpass (following the signs "Altstadt") to the main south gate of the medieval city, Frauentor (»Mary's Gate«) / Königstraße. It is discernible easily by its mighty round tower. Pick up a map at »Nürnberg Info«, Königsstrasse 93, opposite the tower.

  2. Follow Königssstrasse northwards to St. Lawrence church (Lorenzkirche, continental gothic, hosting the famous »angelic salutation« by Veit Stoss: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Lorenz,_Nuremberg)

  3. Follow Königsstraße down to River Pegnitz (right, build into the river, the medieval hospital Heilg Geist (»Holy Spirit«). When the road splits follow the left branch, leading to the main market (»Hauptmarkt«). Right: Frauenkirche (Our Lady), once the host of the Imperial Regalia (now in Vienna). In the Tympanum a mechanical clockwork dating from the early 16th century (playing every noon): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frauenkirche,_Nuremberg. North west corner: the recently restored »Schöner Brunnen«, the market fountain in the shape of a gothic spire (look up Wikipedia to understand it's complicated sculptural program).

  4. From the fountain proceeding north, after a few steps you arrive at (right) the renaissance city hall and (left) St. Sebald (continental gothic), hosting the sepulchre of St. Sebaldus by Peter Vischer.

  5. From the place adjacent north to St. Sebald (»Sebalder Platz«) take the Bergstrasse (not: Burgstrasse!) uphill in NW direction (at no. 1 is the small shop of the Frauenholz bakery, one of the best ginger bread bakers in the city). You will end up at Tiergärtnertorplatz with Albrecht Duerer's house to your left. Nothing of the original furnishing is preserved (it was sold after Duerer's death), but it has an interesting exhibition putting Duerer in the horizont of the european history of art (http://www.museums.nuremberg.de/duerer- house/index.html) and an ample collection für Dürer's graphic work.

Right to the Tiergärtner gate leaning against the city wall there is a funny combination of a coffe shop (Cafe Wanderer, left) and the »Bieramt« (»beer office«, right), the latter offering a selection of beers from small rural breweries throughout Franconia. Just grab an abandoned seat and join the people sitting at the place.

  1. From the north east corner of the Tiergärtnertorplatz a small corridor will lead you up to the castle via »Am Ölberg« and a final U-turn left. The western part is the romanesque imperial palace, the eastern one the Burgrave's castle. If you are interested in romanesque architecture you can find a fine example of a romanesque double chapel in the imperial palace (http://www.kaiserburg- nuernberg.de); the exhibition is, say, unexciting. Otherwise you can proceed to the belvedere (U-turn right) which gives you an overwiev of the city.

  2. At this point, if you are fed up, you can go straight down the Burgstrasse and return after 10 minutes to the main market. You will bypass the best preserved example of a patrician's house, the »Fembohaus« with it's well preserved renaissance interior.

Else, you could go back to the Tiergärtnertorplatz and follow the city wall (»Neutormauer«) in SW direction. After 10 min or so, you will arrive at the river Pegnitz with its small wooden roofed bridge. Crossing that (or the nearby modern one) and going uphill through a couple of small alleys you will arrive at Weissser Turm (»white tower«), a relic of the first walling preceeding the present one. From here you can take U1 to the station (direction "Langwasser Süd", 2 stops) and change then to tram #8. That will bring you within 15 min to the nazi docu center.