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Need some help guys

Hi there, so I’m booked on a flight from varadero to Frankfurt and Frankfurt to London, with two different airlines. Condor first and then Lufthansa. I’ve been told I need to recheck in Frankfurt but I only have an UK visa and proof of my marriage to a British citizen,I’m a Cuban citizen. Is that enough to go through customs and collect my baggage to then re-check in ?
Or should I just go with carry on and continue to my transit area to complete my trip? We are very confused and frustrated with this situation and we will really appreciate some help. Thank you.

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Thank you I have checked with the German consulate here and Cubans don’t need transit visa to pass through Germany. I’m afraid that I’d have to leave the transit area in order to collect my baggage because I don’t think it’ll be anywhere before customs so I believe that I will have to go with hand luggage and just go to the transit area with my electronic boarding pass for the other flight.
I think this is the most sensible thing I can do right now but I’ll try and do some more research as I still have a week to sort it out. Thank you very much

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I feel like I’m making myself a mess here. Ok let’s make it easier, do I need to go through customs to claim my luggage in Frankfurt, (Terminal1) so when I have it recheck?

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You are confusing Customs( goods that you are moving from country to country) and Immigration (people). Germany doesn't care about your luggage if you aren't leaving the airport. Your only concern is with Immigration (passport control.) This may help you with further searches or inquiries

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I really am, the thing is I went to check my booking and they completely confused me but thank you very much for your kind help.

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How much time do you have between the two flights?

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Yes, you would need to go through immigration before you can retrieve your luggage, and if you don't have a Schengen visa, that plan won't work.

You should also contact Condor and make sure what you need to provide to be able to board your flight. From their point of view you have a ticket to Frankfurt, and if you can't show a valid visa for Germany you might be denied boarding. A UK visa and a ticket to London should be enough to be allowed onboard, but if it was me I'd double check it.

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It may be a long shot, but contact Condor and find out if they have any agreement with Lufthansa to be able transfer luggage to a flight. Sometimes airlines will transfer to non-partner airlines. Having a 5 hour layover will help if they are able to do it.

If they do not, then you are limited to carryon.

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Thank you very much guys, I’ll just go with my carry-on and get proof of my marriage (marriage certificate) with my uk visa and then print my ticket from Frankfurt to London to show it here in Varadero. I believe that should be enough. And once I’m in Frankfurt I’ll try and find out what to do whit my baggage on the way back to Cuba. Thank you very much this has been very helpful.

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I see thank you for your good info, I have both flights in terminal 1. I land with condor in terminal one and leave with Lufthansa from the same one.

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In 20 years, I've flow into FRA 7 times and out 6 times, but only one time (one of the six departures) included a transfer, but most of my experience was in the first 10 of those 20 years. Hopefully someone with more recent experience can expand on my advice.

If you go to the Frankfurt Airport website transfer page, (click on the red banner), you will find that all arrivals and departures are currently taking place in Terminal 1, Piers (their name for concourse) A, B and Z.

Piers A and Z are actually two levels of the same building. The upper level, Pier Z, is for passengers who are still outside of Schengen. The lower level, Pier A, is for in-Schengen arrivals and departures. To go between the levels, you have to go through passport control. Each gate is shared between the two levels. If you come into/go out via a gate, you are channeled via stair from/to Piers A or Z depending on where your flight is coming from/going to. So if you come in from a non-Schengen country and go on to a non-Schengen country, you go through, but stay in, Pier Z and never have to go through passport. It's only if you go out of the airport, or to Pier A for an in-Schengen flight that you have to go through passport as you leave Pier Z.

Pier B is similar, except it is all on one level, but is partitioned into in-Schengen and out-or-Schengen (transit zone), and you go through passport control entering or leaving the transit zone.

Looking at one day's schedule shows Lufthansa flights from Varadero arriving at Pier B and Lufthansa flights departing for London departing from Pier B. That was just for one particular day; if it holds true for your travel day, and if you only have carryon luggage or if Condor allows you to check your luggage through to London, you can just stay in the transit zone in Pier B.

If, on your travel day, you have to go from Pier A/Z to Pier B (or visa versa) you should be able to use the SkyLine (little cars on a track on top of the terminal) between transit zones. (This is the only thing I am unsure of, but that seems to be what the website is saying). In 2002, I arrived at the old Pier A on a flight from Munich and transferred to Pier B for a flight to the USA. I used the tunnel between Piers A and B, which is for in-Schengen passenger, then had to go through passport control to get into the transit zone in Pier B.

As Paul suggests, talk with Condor as to whether they can check your luggage through to London. If so, you won't be limited to carryon only.

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If you are arriving at Gate C, just walk to your next gate which will probably be Gate A-1 or Gate A-2, or possibly Z-1, which is what Lufthansa uses a lot.
You have 5 hours. There is excellent signage everywhere.

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So, Ms Jo, the important question is, does the SkyLine have separate stations for cars going between in-transit (outside Schengen) and in-Schengen zones? Or is it all one or the other?

I haven't used the FRA SkyLine since 2000. At that time I went from the in-Schengen zone of T1 (I think it was Pier B) to Terminal 2

I think in Munich, passengers going between the main Terminal 2 and the new satellite of Terminal 2 use different stations, maybe even different lines, depending on whether they are in the Schengen or "airside" (in-transit) zones.

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Yes, it has its' own dedicated airside car but I do not think it is worth walking to this, just to go between these 2 gates.
It is easier just to walk. For me, to walk from A-Z to C-2 might take me 15 min. and I am 65.

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For me, to walk from A-Z to C-2 might take me 15 min.

I'm sorry, what do you mean by "C-2"? Is it the number 2 gate in the C concourse (or Pier C, as the Frankfurt airport site sometimes says)? Apparently the gates in the C concourse are currently closed due to lack of traffic.

According to the airport website, "All check-in processes are now taking place in Terminal 1, Concourses A, B and C. [Terminal 1, Concourses A, B and C being the Departure Hall of Terminal 1, where the check-in counters are located]. From there, passengers can proceed via the security checkpoint to the departure gates of Piers A, B and Z."

I know there is a tunnel between concourse A and B (I've used it), but, as I recall, it is (was) outside the transit (air side) zone. I don't recall a similar feature between A/Z and C concourses. I think to move on foot between the A/Z concourses and the C concourse, you would have to go outside of the airside zone, which apparently our OP can't do.

That is why I thought that the SkyLine, if it moved passengers between the airside zone Z and the airside zone in B, would be the best option.

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According to the map downloadable on the airport's own website (click on "download map"), the A/B tunnel goes between the A (Schengen) level in the A/Z concourse to the Schengen zone of the B concourse. When I used the tunnel in Jan 2002 ( 4 months after 911), I went through some kind of check three times. I think the first time was in Pier A (Schengen side), getting into the tunnel. Then, in Pier B, I went through another check, this time probably, emigration (exiting passport check), to leave Schengen and get into the airside zone of B. The last check was probably by US security before I could board the plane to the US.

So I don't think the tunnel comes out in B in airside.

The airport's map doesn't show the walkway from B to C, but if the C gates aren't currently being used ... .

But, anyway, if his flight comes into the airside of Terminal B and leaves from the same zone, his only problem will be what to do for five hours in that little part of the airport.