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Need help in getting to places in Germany

Hello.
I will be in Germany for 10 days in the first part of September, Flying into Munich.
I would like to see some pretty towns in Germany so I need help in getting there from Munich then getting back to Munich. I will first go to Berchtesgarden and then when I get back to Munich

I would like to see Claw, Schiltach and Gasthof Partenkitchen, are these 3 towns worth seeing and do I have the time or am I trying to do too much ?

What would be the best route to see them ? I am thinking going by Train, could someone help me with the stations towns to get there ect.
THANKS so Much

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Calw (note correct spelling) and Schiltach are both in the Black Forest, so you could get to those by train. For those two, I would suggest basing yourself in Gengenbach, as that is on the main train line and gets to both Schiltach and Calw fairly quickly (2+ hours for each from Gengenbach). I'm not familiar with Calw, but I loved Gengenbach and Schiltach. I stayed in Gengenbach in the Black Forest for 4 nights in 2022 and it was wonderful. The town is very charming with beautiful half-timbered houses (it's frequently called a "chocolate box" village) and has a beautiful Altstadt, with quite a few restaurants and cafes to choose from. Gengenbach makes a good base as it is right on the main train line, and gives you the options of some interesting day trips.

One nice benefit if you stay there is that you receive a KONUS card, which entitles you to free public transport throughout the Black Forest region. There are many charming villages in the region that you can visit along the Black Forest Railway, and there is also the Vogtsbauernhof (open-air museum) that is a joy to visit and easily accessible by train.

There is no town called Gasthof Parktenkitchen, but I'm assuming you're referring to Garmisch Partenkirchen, where you could easily stay on your way from Munich to the Black Forest.

One extra note: Personally, unless you are especially interested in WWII, I would visit Salzburg rather than Bergdesgaden, as it is more beautiful, imo, and has much more to do. It's also easier to get to by train and easier to get around in using public transport.

Posted by
7517 posts

First things first...

Berchtesgarden is Berchtesgaden (one 'r' - not two.)

Claw is Calw

Gasthof is a different word. It's Garmisch and Partenkitchen is Partenkirchen (no 't', use 'r' in place of the 't'.)

Once you have the spelling correct you can use the DB website to find train schedules. Don't buy anything for now... Come back here with your itinerary and get help before doing any purchasing. Some of your journeys should not be bought in advance.

https://int.bahn.de/en/

Find your destinations on a map; it should be clearer to you how to organize this trip once you have eyes on their general locations.

Munich Airport T is the name of the airport station.

Posted by
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Thanks for the input, I want to go to Berchtesgarden because I do have an interest in WW2, it does not seem to hard to get to, Munich to Freilassing then on to Berchtesgarden, just have to figure out what train.

I will also spend a night in Freising to see the worlds oldest brewery.

I would like to take the train to Calw and then to Schiltach, starting at the Munich Rail station.

Then from Schiltach to Garmisch-Partenkirchen if that is possible or would it be easier just to go back to Munich and then on to Garmisch-Partenkirchen ? would maybe check out some of the castles in that area.
I was thinking of going to Rothenburg but read Garmisch-Partenkirchen is better because its less touristy, your thoughts on the two.
But again the castles are pretty touristy I think.

So could someone help me with a rail plan ?

Sorry if I still spelled something wrong.

Posted by
7517 posts

You will need to use the DB website that I linked to previously to determine the length of the trips you want to make and the changes of train that are needed. Your journeys are as follows, correct?

From: Munich Airport T...
To: Freising

From: Freising...
To: Munich

From: Munich...
To: Berchtesgaden

From: Berchtesgaden
To: Calw

From: Calw...
To: Schiltach

From: Schiltach...
To: Garmisch-Partenkirchen (You will most likely be directed there automatically via Munich)

I expect you will find long train trips with numerous changes of train. If you decide this is too much, would you be willing to pick alternative destinations for Schiltach and Calw, which are quite a distance from Munich? If so, let us know and we can make suggestions for places that are SIMILAR to these towns.

For your reference, here is a map of the Bavarian rail lines. The towns of Berchtesgaden, Freising and Garmisch-Partenkirchen are included. Calw and Schiltach lie in a different state, far to the west of Bavaria.

https://www.bayerwald-ticket.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Streckennetz_Bayern_2012.pdf

Posted by
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I will also spend a night in Freising to see the worlds oldest brewery.

Last year, I toured the Weihenstephen Braueri, it was very interesting, and well worth the time to get there. For our last two days in Germany, we stayed in Freising, at the Hotel Maisberger. From that hotel, right on the railroad line, it was a short trip to/from Freising (although we did need a bus to/from the bahnhof). And a very short (2 stops) train to the Munich Airport. Regarding the Weihenstephen Braueri, you should sign up in advance to take a tour (in English I presume). You pay approx. $20. Well worth it. We probably drank $20 worth of beer samples at the end of the tour. There's a very nice pub at the Braueri, for a meal afterward. Buy the t-shirt.

Posted by
2571 posts

we stayed in Freising, at the Hotel Maisberger

To be a little more specific, this hotel is located in Neufahrn south of Freising and very conveniently directly opposite the stop of the S1 both to the airport and to Freising (the S1 splits at Neufahrn).

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Russ, in looking at the DB website, for example on 9/7 a train leaves Munich at 8:46 and arrives in Calw at 12:07, it mentions ICE690, RE1 and RB74, are those the train numbers ?
And at other departure times it looks like for part of the trip you have to get on a bus, odd. I would rather not get on a bus.
This is a bit overwhelming, now I am on the fence on going to Southwest Germany on this trip and maybe should stay in Southeast Germany.
Looks like trains leaving Berchtesgarden are much more limited heading back to Munich.

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For Freising it looks like the Gasthof Lerner is closer to the brewery then Hotel Maisberger?

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7517 posts

Russ, in looking at the DB website, for example on 9/7 a train leaves
Munich at 8:46 and arrives in Calw at 12:07, it mentions ICE690, RE1
and RB74, are those the train numbers ?

Exactly. Click on "details" to find the layover times for changing trains, the platforms (Pl.) etc.

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7517 posts

IMO Calw is a long trip. Good idea to stay closer in for your 10 days. If you stay in Bavaria (the map) you could do a day trip from Munich visiting Donauwoerth and Noerdlingen, two Romantic Road towns. DW and I spent a couple of nights in Donauwoerth last summer. But you can visit from Munich.

Munich > Donauwoerth 9:35 - 10:56; see town for a while.
Donauwoerth > Noerdlingen 13:12 - 13:38

Back to Munich after sightseeing is done and dinner...

Noerdlingen > Donauwoerth > Munich by direct train 18:21 - 20:20

Just suggestions... you can find a schedule of your own.

Trips like this can be done on a day pass called the Bayern (Bavaria) Ticket. Buy it at the station or using the DB app. Do not buy in advance as it's non-refundable. It allows use of any regional trains throughout Bavaria all day long. No scheduling is needed, just hop on any regional train that goes where you want to go.

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Get the db navigator app and start just looking at where you want to go. Shows connections, platforms and stops along the way. Relatively easy to use. I don’t purchase tickets until i am 100% certain of my timing.

Have fun!

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in looking at the DB website, for example on 9/7 a train leaves
Munich at 8:46 and arrives in Calw at 12:07, it mentions ICE690, RE1
and RB74, are those the train numbers ?

those are indeed the train type and number. That means you will be on 3 trains in decreasing order of speed and increasing order of number of stops before yours. You will change twice.

ICE is Inter City Express, the fastest long distance train type. Stops at only major cities and interchanges.

RE is Regio(nal) Express, stays within a region and skips some local stops.

RB is Regio Bahn, the milk train which stops at every anthill.

ICE690 originates at München Hbf and goes to beyond Berlin. Because it originates in Munich relatively early in the day you have a reasonably good chance of it being on time leaving. I make no guarantees that it will stay on time. It makes 3 stops on the way to your change point of Stuttgart Hbf, stopping at a Munich suburb, Augsburg (a particularly nice and historic town) and Ulm, of the very high steeple and the end of Bavaria. How Stuttgart is on the way from Munich to Berlin will best be left to the boffins at DB

You have 16 minutes to change at Stuttgart, a doddle if you're on time (no longer a given with DB long distance) onto the RE1.

The RE1 originates about an hour before Stuttgart and you're only going 3 stops in half an hour.

Then the change at Pforzheim Hbf. You only have 6 minutes there so I hope all the other dominos are in a row, or you'll be waiting for the next RB. The RB74 makes 7 stops in its half hour, originating in Pforzheim Hbf so it will be waiting for you.