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Need good half way stop in Black Forest between Colmar and Fussen please

Good day everyone

We will be spending 2 or 3 nights in Colmar towards the end of December and want to drive to Fussen or Garmisch from there. But we would also like to visit pretty towns in the Black Forest.

  1. Would you suggest spending 3 nights in Colmar and doing a day trip in the Black Forest while we are in Colmar?
  2. or would you suggest spending 2 nights in Colmar and the 3rd somewhere in the Black Forest on route to Fussen?
  3. And if we spend a night in the Black Forest, which town would you suggest that would be more or less half way to Fussen? I looked at the map and there are many options, but can you recommended any of these towns?

Thank you!

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Once you're halfway between Colmar and Fuessen you're no longer in the Black Forest. This time of year, small villages may not be the most inviting because they're not much to do. And by late December I hope you mean before the 23rd otherwise there will be NOTHING to do.

I'd consider staying overnight in Freiburg, it's not very far from Colmar but it has a Christmas Market and is a good base for visiting the very special outdoor Christmas market nearby. Or if you really want a true "halfway point" Ravensburg is a good option, it's pretty and historic.

If you're visiting during/after Christmas you seriously need to rethink your itinerary.

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Thank you for your reply. Would you recommend rather staying in Strasbourg and Munich instead of Colmar and Fussen? The idea with Fussen was to visit a ski resort, Zugspitze, the castles and Oberammergau.

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What are your exact dates? If you will be here from Dec 23 through January 6, I would recommend Strasbourg, you can day trip to Colmar from there.

I don't ski but I know people take ski holidays during Christmas break so that should be fine and iirc the castles are only closed on the 24th and 25th. If you're a serious skier you may prefer to stay elsewhere though - my German friends don't ski in Germany, they go to Austria or Italy. But if you're a novice to beginner I think the German ski resorts will be fine.

Edited to replace Munich with Colmar! Brain fart.

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Sarah, are you recommending a day trip from Munich to Strasbourg? I guess you mean Salzburg, as Strasbourg is a bit far away for a day trip :-)

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Perhaps I should give you my full itinerary to give you a clearer picture of what we have in mind

land in Paris
27 December Paris
28 Paris
(yes I know it is too short but expensive city!)
train to Strasbourg
29 Colmar or Strasbourg
30 Colmar or Strasbourg
31 either another night in Colmar or Strasbourg, or start driving to Bavaria. If we start driving on the 31st, we might have to overnight somewhere because it is such a long trip
1 , 2, 3 Jan: Fussen or Garmisch or Mittenwald (ski, castles, Oberammergau, Zugspitze)
4 Salzburg or Berchtesgaden
5 Salzburg of Berchtesgaden
train to Prague
6 to 10 Jan: Prague (day trips to Bohemian Switzerland, Kutna Hora etc)
11 Jan: fly back from Prague

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Does this sound doable? Sarah you said we should seriously rethink our itinerary. Can you suggest some changes please? Any help would be appreciated. We have made accommodation bookings with free cancellations.

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Does this sound doable? Sarah you said we should seriously rethink our itinerary. Can you suggest some changes please? Any help would be appreciated. We have made accommodation bookings with free cancellations.

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OK, your itinerary isn't as bad as I feared.

Much of Germany shuts down during the Christmas holiday, but a few things start slowly opening up after the 1st, and the 6th is the official "end" of Christmas. The smaller the town, the more dead it will be.

So I wouldn't recommend staying in a Black Forest town on the 31st as it will be dead except for kids shooting off fireworks.

Colmar or Strasbourg are fine choices, they don't shut down as thoroughly as Germany does after Christmas. Both have Christmas markets that run through at least the 31st, although Strasbourg shut theirs early a few years ago due to terrorism threats. So things can change. Most people here prefer Colmar because it's smaller and more charming. I like Strasbourg because there's more to do, but both are lovely and you will be happy in either and should absolutely take a day trip to visit whichever one you don't stay at.

I personally don't think driving from Alsace to Fussen in a day is that long, but I would want to be somewhere "big" for New Year's Eve. I'm a little biased but I think seeing Germans go crazy with bottle rockets on New Year's Eve is a cultural experience worth having, and thus would suggest Stuttgart as your overnight on the 31st. If you left France early enough you could have time to meander through some the more scenic Black Forest towns (I like Alpirsbach for their brewery/monestary and Calw for the half-timbered houses) and get to Stuttgart by nightfall which is when people will start setting off fireworks. Find a hotel with a view of the city and enjoy the show, then go to Fuessen the next morning (2 1/2 hour drive or so).

That said even in Stuttgart, ALL the museums and attractions here are closed on the 31st and the 1st so it would only be for NYE. But at least restaurants will be open, some of them, anyway (reserve!) and the Wintertraum ice skating rink is open until 4pm. In a tiny village you'll be lucky if anyone but the Doner Kepab shop and a smokey dive bar are open on the evening of the 31st.

Apparently Strasbourg and Colmar also go crazy like Germany on NYE with people setting off random fireworks, so you could just stay in one of those places and make the longer drive on the 1st.

The rest of your trip should be OK because those places are touristy enough that they don't shut down completely the way much of the country does. But be aware that even Neuschwanstein is closed on the 1st. Double check that the things you want to do will be operating on the days you plan to do them. You may need a slightly more structured trip than usual in order to not be frustrated by closures.

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Just don't forget you will be driving in winter and due to weather conditions any drive may take longer than you expected.

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Thank you so much for all the detail Sarah! Sounds like an excellent plan. I was worried about spending New Years eve in a tiny town.
With regards to the last part of our trip - 5 nights in Prague with side trips: would you rather suggest 3 nights in Prague and the other 2 in for example Slovenia or Bratislava or Budapest? Or would that be too far out?

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Prague to Budapest is over 5 hours driving, and there's enough to do in Prague and nearby that I wouldn't with your timeframe. I've never heard anyone say that Bratislava is a must-visit city, and I know several people who have been there. There's plenty to do in Prague, if you get bored there's always Cesky Krumlov, Pilsen if you're into beer, Kunta Hora, etc.