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Ideas and Itinerary - 1 week in/near Frankfurt with family of 4 (3 and 5 year old kids)

Hello everyone, thank you for your help in advance!

My family will be in Frankfurt for a 1-week trip in the summer(a long layover on our way further east). We are thinking about 4 days in Frankfurt and 3 day trips to the surrounding area. If we feel like we have more energy then maybe 4 day trips and only 3 days in Frankfurt.

4-days Frankfurt We are mainly thinking about Frankfurt as kids play and parents relax

  • After searching the forums here it seems like there are some great museums for the kids(Dinosaurs, Film, and Bible) as well as other activities like Palmentgarden, Goetheturm, Ebbelwal Express, and a boat ride on Rhine and Main.

3 Day Trips These will be more focused on all of us. We are thinking 1.5 hours max for a one-way train or bus ride for the day trips.

  • Day Trip 1 - Taunus - seems like good options for kids hiking as well as the kids Wunderland

  • Day Trip 2 - Heidelberg - A relaxing day enjoying the city and the history

  • Day Trip 3 - Uncertain - Bad Homburg/ Limburg/Worms/Somewhere Else?

    • Possible Day Trip 4 - Also uncertain on location.

Questions:

  • Which one or two cities/towns/etc do you think would be best to do for the other day trips?
  • Are there other things we should think about in Frankfurt for young kids?
  • Any other things I am doing badly or that I have missed?
  • The Palmentgarden. On the site it mentions a "children's garden" program but I don't see much on when it happens. Does anyone have any ideas?

Thanks again for any help!

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With your interests I could see 4 nights in Frankfurt plus 3 nights in some other base town from which you could do short outings.

A 3-night stay in Rüdesheim would provide a completely different atmosphere from "Mainhattan" as well as outing options for your Rhine Cruise, for medieval castle tours (Marksburg, Rheinfels) and for hiking. Also, Rüdesheim is close enough to FRA airport when it's time to leave.

Area map + information: http://www.loreley-info.com/eng/rhein-rhine/walking-hiking.php

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Wurzburg is only a short train ride from Frankfurt. Huge castle / fortress overlooking the city. Prince Bishop's Residenze is really something to see. Do a googl search and see if it holds any interest. Thinking about it, you could also make Rothenburg a day trip. Be a bit of a long day, but the kids would love it.

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For kids, (and adults) I would plan on a visit to Hessen Park Open Air Museum and to the Saalburg Roman Fort, both near Bad Homburg.
The Opel Zoo, Lochmühle, the Frankfurt Zoo.

Post your dates or message me if you don't want those made public and I can tell you which fests are happening in this area.

I would not plan on a stay in Rüdesheim, the public transportation to get you anywhere else is a pain. Keep your plan of staying in Frankfurt where there is lots to see and do for everyone and it is easy to go to other towns.

If you are here on the last Sat. of the month, many museums are free.

Not sure how old your kids are, but the Communication museum is fun and interactive. The Historic museum has a kids section. The Palmengarten has a water play area, so you would need to take dry clothing. There is a fun playground along the river in Höchst, that has wooden castles, etc in it. There are many parks in Frankfurt that are fun, and some have water play areas. The playground that is next to the Goethe Turm is great.

Speyer might be a good town to visit with their technical museum.

Rather than Rothenburg, which is not a day trip from Frankfurt in my opinion, try Büdingen and book a private tour so you can go inside the massive walls and up on top of their huge watch towers. Büdingen was not bombed in the war and all the houses are original. The walls and towers are fantastic.

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I would not plan on a stay in Rüdesheim, the public transportation to
get you anywhere else is a pain. Keep your plan of staying in
Frankfurt where there is lots to see and do for everyone and it is
easy to go to other towns

It would be helpful to hear some details about this transportation pain. Where, what, and how bad is it around Rüdesheim? You are referring to the trains, right? This train route?

If it's that bad on this side of the river, are you recommending against Rüdesheim altogether now? Is a Frankfurt > Rüdesheim > Frankfurt day trip (for the purpose of a Rhine Cruise, the chairlift, walking/hiking the Niederwald, etc.) no longer advisable? Should staying in or traveling to Eltville (just upstream) now also be avoided? AFAIK this particular route is the only viable means of public transport for getting to these very popular places - from Frankurt, anyway.

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Yes, I think that Rüdesheim for a family with little kids is not ideal. For a day visit from Frankfurt, yes, but not to stay there. Just not enough to do. In a large city, there is so much more for kids and the trains are so much easier to get for day trips to other towns.

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Thank you for your messages TC, Russ and Ms. Jo! Rüdesheim, Wurzburg, and Bad Homburg look like good options! Thank you for the good options inside Frankfurt there were a few I haven't seen yet! The kids are 3 and 5 years old.

A few more questions that have come up as I keep looking:
1. We have also heard about train rides through the forest. My wife and I would love this but I'm not sure how the kids would do with it. Any thoughts?

  1. I see so many different options for train tickets. I see there is a 3-day train ticket, the Deutschland-Ticket, and then a trial ticket for the BahnCard. I have never been in a place with so many options and my head is swimming a bit. If we do 3 days of trains one way and back is there one of these options that would be better?
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My question was about the public transportation being a pain, what the nature of this problem discussed might be.

But since access to the trains that go to Rüdesheim from Frankfurt is good, and since you are giving a thumbs up to Rüdesheim, I'll have to assume that taking the same train line out of Rüdesheim, to Frankfurt or wherever, is no problem.

As for kids in Rüdesheim, I suspect most parents see a stay there - or in Frankfurt - as a stay to indulge their own adult interests as well as those of their children. They probably will take 3- and 5-year-olds to a playground or a park, but they'll also take them along for adult-oriented stuff. But there's as much kid stuff here as in any town the size of R'heim, I think. Probably more.

Isn't Siegfried's a place you might recommend?
https://www.smmk.de/en/guided-tours.html

The Hafenpark there is nice. Playground too.
https://www.smmk.de/en/guided-tours.html

There's the cable lift too.
https://www.alamy.de/stockfoto-kinder-in-einer-seilbahn-seilbahn-rudesheim-mit-blick-auf-die-weinberge-rheintal-deutschland-32863561.html

And the choo-choo vineyard tour:
https://www.eibinger-weinwanderung.de/files/custom/img/winzer-express-1.jpg

And of course most families want to take a Rhine cruise to see all the castles. Most kids enjoy a boat ride, I think. And they ride free or cheap.

https://www.k-d.com/fileadmin/_processed_/8/c/csm_kd-schaufelradschiff-goethe_e6b01d5219.jpg

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Most short train outings you will do can be done easily enough by regional train on pay-as-you-go day passes. The specific details depend on your specific destination and day of travel.

Trains through the forest?

Maybe you are talking about the Black Forest trains? This is a very scenic area, and the trains are free of charge when you stay in the area's smaller towns. But a plan that spends 7 of 7 nights in Frankfurt will not make these train rides feasible. The Black Forest is far to the south of Frankfurt near the Swiss border. It would take a few hours using the high-speed trains to reach the Black Forest.

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Russ, there is only 1 train per hour in either direction. If this family wants to go anywhere, they have a long ride to get to connecting trains (1.25 hours) in Frankfurt and have to plan their whole day around this 1 train per hour to leave Rüdesheim or get back. It simply makes more sense to be in a city that has a good transportation hub.

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@Jo

If this family wants to go anywhere, they have a long ride to get to
connecting trains (1.25 hours) in Frankfurt...

What you are saying here is that a 3-night stay in Rüdesheim will prevent visitors from doing outings because the only worthwhile outing destinations are in Frankfurt's neighborhood (which of course would be a long trip from Rüdesheim.)

But the fact is that Rüdesheim's neighborhood is fantastic and has its own very desirable destinations for outings, places that are easy to reach from R'heim. Trying to get there from a Frankfurt base - plus making time for all there is to see there - would of course be not just a hardship but an impossibility. You'd have time for only a smattering... The travel facts below bear this out:

  • Rheinfels Castle ruins and museum in St. Goar (one of your favorite castle visits, correct?)

from Rüdesheim: 25 min. by train + a 5-minute ferry crossing
from Frankfurt: 1 hr. 40 minutes by train

  • Eltville (another favorite of yours)

from Rüdesheim: 17 min. by train
from Frankfurt: 40-55 min. by train

  • Bacharach (Rick Steves' favorite Rhine town)

from Rüdesheim: Just add a Bacharach visit to the Rheinfels/St. Goar outing. (It's only 10 additional train minutes from there.)
from Frankfurt: 65-95 min. depending on hour of the day

  • Marksburg (intact medieval castle) in Braubach

from Rüdesheim: 47 min. by train
from Frankfurt: 2 hrs. by train

The entire Rhine Gorge, including its gateway town of Rüdesheim, is a UNESCO World Heritage site, with excellent and enjoyable means of transportation on both riverbanks AND right down the middle of the river as well with the Rhine Cruise boats which 3 different companies use between Rüdesheim and Koblenz. Several ferries connect towns across the river. Bus services exist as well.

I am not saying it's impossible to spend 7 nights in Frankfurt and to do nice day trips from there. What I am saying - and said - is that a 3-night stay in Rüdesheim and the Rhine Gorge is entirely feasible, family-appropriate, ripe with outing options and good transport to reach them, and easy to incorporate into a week-long stay near FRA airport.

IME there is nothing at all debilitating about the east Rhine train line north of Rüdesheim. Hourly service would be perfectly adequate there (if that's all there was.) I once spent 5 nights (pre-covid) in the tiny east-bank town of Osterspai. I did train outings from there up the Mosel River, the Lahn River Valley, and traveled as as far north as Bonn on the Rhine. It was a snap.

But train frequency is in fact better than hourly - trains run every half hour during busier periods. If I stay in Osterspai again this summer, 22 different trains are on the schedule to stop there on the way to Koblenz on every weekday across the 18 hours between 5 am and 11 pm. That is crazy flaming good service for a town of 1,200 people. If I lived and worked in Frankfurt I might require more... but that is more than I would ever need as a casual visitor for 3 days in Osterspai - OR in Rüdesheim (pop. 10K.)

European visitors seem to grasp the value of staying in Rüdesheim. Interesting tourist-industry data... visitors from Denmark, the Netherlands, Sweden, Belgium, and Switzerland sit atop the "Top 10 list" of foreigners who book there. They average 2-3 nights for each stay. Americans (who make up just 4% of the top 10) only stay an average of 1.5 nights - a strategic mistake for this area, I think.

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Love the idea about a train to Wurzburg with an overnight and then onward to Rothenburg with an overnight. Then back to Frankfurt. Don't forget the Frankfurt Zoo. We took our one-year-old daughter there on her first birthday 50 years ago. She still travels. Your kids are really more carrying then walking kids. Places like Rüdesheim and towns along the Rhine fill up with tourists which makes strolling a little more difficult. One last thing. We took our grandkids (4) to Europe 4 years ago and I have to say the German people bended over backwards to accommodate us with the children. I will never forget their kindest.

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Thank you all for the information! It took me a while to digest it all. I will try to update as things progress!