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Help with short layovers in Munich and Frankfurt

I will try to be clearer this time. I have two separate trips.

The first trip:
Starts in the USA flying on an A380 and gets into Munich. I need to transfer on the same ticket to a plane heading to Budapest in the same terminal. According to Lufthansa, I have around One hour and 20 minutes between flights.

The second trip also single ticket:
I will be flying from London into Frankfurt, on, I believe, an A320, and heading to my next flight to Boston USA in the same terminal with about a One hour 30 minute layover time.

What advice would you give for such short layovers in these cities?
Should I let a person from the airline know as I leave the place I have a short layover?
Should I let anyone know? Are there special lines I should look out for for short layovers?
I have never been in Frankfurt airport before and I have only taken one flight out of Minuch ever.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Or should I just calm down as this is normal for these cities?

Thanks,
Mark

Posted by
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I'm not sure why a new thread was started when you could have posted this clarification in the original thread. This one seemed to be harder for me to read, particularly with the different spellings of Lufthansa, Frankfurt and Munich.

Frankfurt is a huge airport and 1:30 between flights will mean a fair bit of running around particularly if there's a delay, even within the same terminal. Because the U.K. is no longer part of the Schengen zone, I do not know if you would have to go through passport control before catching the flight to Boston - someone else could answer this question, I'm sure.

Posted by
493 posts

Yes, calm down.
In Munich that is more than enough time. At least it would be for me. Even running a bit late you should have adequate time there.
Frankfurt also is enough time as long as you are good at following directions. People can get mixed up in that airport. That said, it is well marked so once you arrive, don't dilly dally. Proceed as you must and go to your gate right away.
You don't mention checked luggage. I carry mine with me whenever I am "outbound" so that I can control where my bag is. I travel light and have a smallish bag that meets the size and weight constraints...do that.
Chillllll........have a beer.

Posted by
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I have transferred flights in Frankfurt and was impressed by how quickly I moved from gate to gate for my connecting flight. I haven't transferred in Munich, but your next flight is within Europe, so I would be less concerned about the short transfer time.

Generally, I fly into Europe to Amsterdam or CDG and insist on 1 1/2 hours. You should be OK, but I haven't flown Lufthansa in decades.

Posted by
656 posts

You should be fine, so yes just take a deep breath! 1.5-ish layovers are very usual in both those German airports & since you're on one ticket for each, it should work. There's no need or requirement to tell anyone about it, unless you miss your connecting flight, then go find the appropriate carrier's ticketing counter.

MUC should be plenty of time but I would still head straight to immigration, (just follow the crowds, read the signage but don't meander until after immigration) as it's your first entry into the Schengen area. I just came through MUC into Europe a few weeks ago, I think walking to immigration and waiting took less than 10 minutes.

Leaving LHR, transiting in FRA heading to the USA, you shouldn't have to go through immigration in FRA, however there's a pre-boarding process at the departure gate when you fly to the USA, I would add 15 minutes to your time just to wait in that line. It's a security check to ask if you packed your own bags, had electronics repaired, and basically give you a look over.

Have you checked LH's hand carry limits? I seem to recall it's very low, 7KG. I can't imagine only doing carry-on with that kind of limit, but some on the Forum do manage it. In general, I check a bag because I don't want to deal with hauling stuff through airports, but that's just me.

Posted by
43 posts

I do have checked bags as my bag will be too heavy to take on with me. As you state the hand carry limit is very low. Only 18lbs ( about 8kg) if my converter is correct.

I started a new thread to try and remove any misunderstanding. I thought it deleted the old thread and if it didn't I apologize. If this thread seems more complicated, I apologize.

I think this one is much more consistent as the starting point is always first, then the landing airport, then the place and finally the connecting flight with time.

Most seem to think there will be no problems.

Thank You,

Posted by
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in the same terminal

Be aware that in both Munich and Frankfurt, the terminals that Lufthansa uses (T1 in FRA, T2 in MUC) have 2 buildings each. Same terminals, two different buildings.

In Munich, the older (almost 20 years) terminal (T2, main) might not have been built to take an A380. It looks like there is at least one gate in the T2 Satellite that takes 380s. Gates at the T2 Satellite are K for Schengen flights, L for out-side of Schengen flights; at the main T2 building it's G for Schengen flights and H for out-side Schengen flights.

It looks like an A380 uses one of the L gates in the Satellite of T2. Two of the three Munich to Budapest Lufthansa flights yesterday used G gates in the main T2 building. So, it is likely that you will have to change buildings. There are underground shuttle trains between the buildings, between Schengen and outside-Schengen gates. They run every 4 minutes and take 1 minute. When you arrive, presumably at an L gate, you will have to go through immigration (passport check) and after that follow signs to the G gates. That will take you down to the basement to the shuttle trains, go to the main building (G gates), and go up to the level with your gate.

The problem with trans-Atlantic flights is you never know what time you will get to Germany. I've flow trans-Atlantic 11 times since 2000, and I've been an hour late 3 times. However, there are probably a lot of flights to Budapest, and if you miss your scheduled flight, I would expect Lufthansa to get you on a later flight that day. If not, there are a lot of rail connections to Budapest from the airport in about 8 hours.

Posted by
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I have never had to rebook a flight for any reason.
There are two additional Lufthansa flights that day. There are 15:30 and 22:20 flights later that day. How easy is it to get a change based on missing a flight due to a late flight or a delay at the border if I had to for some reason?
I hope it doesn't come to this, but always be prepared.

I need to thank this group. This forum is by far the best. Unlike other forms, people are friendly and do not blame or belittle a lack of knowledge.

Thank you,
Mark

Posted by
656 posts

How easy is it to get a change based on missing a flight due to a late flight or a delay at the border if I had to for some reason? I hope it doesn't come to this, but always be prepared.

I fly 3x a year from SFO to ARN, usually transiting in FRA or MUC, and whenever I would have missed my connection on LH, I had already been re-booked by Lufthansa before landing. Sometimes if I know ahead of departure, I call the airline in the US to discuss flight change and seating, depends. Don't worry about it, you will be re-booked! Download the LH app & just look it up. Bon Voyage. PS, Glad you checked your bag.

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As for London to Frankfurt to the US (sorry, I had other things to do, I wanted to get back sooner). The distance from London to Frankfurt is not that far, you shouldn't get delayed on the way, but there is always the chance that your flight would be delayed leaving London, in which case, there is not much way the pilot can make up time, and there might not be another flight to the US that day. If possible, I would take an earlier flight and give myself more time for the connection in Frankfurt.

In Frankfurt, Terminal 1 has two "concourses", A/Z and B. They are in two separate buildings (actually wings off off the main building where you check in and retrieve luggage. Concourse A/Z is the original A concourse. It is now used only for in-Schengen flights. They built a new floor (Z) above the original one for outside-of-Schengen flights. If you are lucky, both your flights will use gates in the Z concourse. It's all on one floor of the buildings.

However, if your flights are between the two buildings, you will have to take the SkyLine shuttle between the buildings. Look for signs. They might only say to B or Z.

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It turns out I was lucky on the flight to the USA from Frankfurt, as there are three more flights that day (including two codeshare and one Lufthansa). The last flight will get me in too late to get any bus home. I might be better off staying overnight, but the earlier alternate flights get me in early enough to catch the bus home.
Enough negative thinking. I will make it with no problems.

Thanks for the advice.