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Germany: Bavarian Itinerary looking for interesting places to add/swap

This will be my wife and I first trip to Germany. We love the outdoors and History. As you can see from the Itinerary below we like the relaxed and somewhat freelanced approach to travel. Looking for anything interesting from those that have traveled the area and maybe what to expect. We will have rental car for the first 7 days of the trip. The itinerary only has the main sights so you have an idea of where we will be.

Travel dates: 10.08.18 - 10.18.18

10.08: Arrive around 1pm, pick up rental car & drive to Ettal (3 nights)

10.09: Head toward Fussen to see Neuschwanstein, Linderhof, Wieskirche

10.10: Head to G&P: Zugspitze, partnachklamm; Mittenwald: Leutascher Geisterklamm

10.11: Leave Ettal for Bad Reichenhall (3 nights)
-stop at chimsee to visit Neues Schloss

10.12: Berchtesgaden: Eagle's nest, Boat tour of Konigssee (st. Bartholoma), Wimblachklamm

10.13: Day in Bad Reichenhall (mostly at the spa)

10.14: Drive to Munich: stop at Dachau and then return car taking train back into Munich(4 nights)

10.15 - 10.17: Be all over Munich: Looking for recommended restaurants

All comments are appreciated.

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You need to get a timely start (around 9 am) from Bad Reichenhall if you want to catch the last English language tour of Dachau, which is at 1 pm. According to ViaMichelin the trip takes at least 3 hours by car and you need to me there a little before 1 pm to reserve the tour. But, Dachau is easy to get to by public transportation from downtown Munich, so you could plan on doing it another day.

The itinerary only has the main sights

I think some days just the main sites on your itinerary are more sights than you can reasonably do in a single day, at least if you do justice to the sights. For example, I've done Wimbachklamm and Königssee in a day, but I don't think the Eagles Nest as well is practical. Maybe if you drive to Wimbachbrücke, hike to the start of Wimbachklamm and say, "Wimbachklamm, check", then hike back to Wimbachbrücke and drive to Schönau for the boat to St. Bartholomä. Don't stop and see St. Barholomä or go all the way to Obersee, just say, "St. Bartholomä, check", turn around and take the next boat back to Schönau and drive to the base of Kehlstein for the trip up to the Eagles Nest. When you get to the Eagle Nest say, "Eagles Nest, check", but that's not seeing things, not the way I want to travel.

Don't jump around, like Neuschwanstein to Linderhof to Wieskirche. Do Wieskirche to Neuschwanstein to Linderhof. Get a map, and map out the most efficient route between sites. Prioritize the sights. Recognize that you might not get to see the lowest priority. (P.S., I spent 7 hours at Linderhof. The palace itself took about half an hour to tour, but the grounds are extensive. Don't miss the grotto.)

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I have to agree with Lee. The way you're planning to do it you'll never really "see" anything. I barely got Linderhof and the Ettal Monastery seen in one day, and they're pretty close together. The tram to the Zugspitz and back down is going to take hours, even without a crowd. And It's easy to spend 3-4 hours up on top if the weather's clear.

In Munich I usually hit the Viktualenmarkt in the morning and pick up stuff for the day and carry it with me or plan on hitting an Imbiss for lunch. (German restaurants get busy for the mid-day meal.) Anything around the Marienplatz is touristy and expensive - avoid. The Hofbrauhaus is famous, but the Lowenbrauhaus has a better beer garden and menu, and it's cheaper. The Pauliner Brauhaus is good, and Hirschau in the English Gardens is too (and both are outside the normal "tourist" routes). The coffeeshop on Odeonsplatz (across from the gardens) is excellent and has good pastries too. If the weather's good I recommend the Seehaus in the English Garden for both the food and views.

If you walk around in the evening it's not hard to find a decent place; just look for the students. They do good food and cheap. If the weather's good you can also just find a place where there's a sidewalk show and go there. My experience is the musicians know where the best places are (if only for the tips) and that way you get a show with dinner. (Don't be afraid to go downstairs, there are some really good places in the cellars.)

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Thank you LEE and KGC
I appreciate your comments. I have a maps and have routes already mapped for quickest and leanest (I'm six sigma and lean trained so it's a habit) routes possible. We have definitely prioritized our sight seeing and have backup plans/routes if we need to move higher priority sites to different days. Just found out that Marienbrücke will close just before we get there, so that will save us some time. I have run routes on both ViaMichelin and Google to get estimates on the travel times, so I am glad you have actual experience visiting these sites and know the time frames for a good visit at each. We plan on getting on the road pretty early each day.

For most of the trip, especially while on the road, we will be doing picnic lunches to help with the budget and time. In Munich we will most likely do what KGC stated, pick up at food for the day at the Viktualienmarkt, that way we don't need to go out of your way to find a quick bite just a patch of grass or bench.

If anybody is in Munich when we are and would like to meet up let me know.

Danke

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For picnic lunches stop at the local small town metzgerei (meat shop) which is usually next to a backerei (bakery). Between them you should be able to get most everything you need fresh. Meat, bread, some veggies or pickles, cheese, condiments. The meat shops usually have drinks too, since they have refrigeration.

if you want something prepared look for an Imbiss wagon along the highway. They cater to locals, travelers, and truck drivers.