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Thanks for posting, very interesting visiting Spandau history-wise. History-wise, there are other reasons to visit Spandau and its Rathaus and Old Spandau.

On Lenin: I've seen two big, these so-called larger than life statues of him, so depicted in Germany, one of which can still be seen in the German History Museum located on Unten den Linden. That gigantic statue used to be in Berlin-Karlshorst in the German-Russian History Museum, where I saw it in August 1989 during those hectic days of the cold war. That museum then served as the Soviet version of the history of WW2, all in Russian, obviously, only a little in German.

Three years later in August 1992 I was able to get back to that museum, since the Soviets and their "version" of history and East Germany were now gone, likewise with the gigantic Lenin statue.

The other statue of Lenin was actually a large bust of him located in the small town in the Greater Berlin area, Wunsdorf-Zossen, the site of German Army HO in the war, that of OKH. Getting out here was a bit taxing. This was in the summer of 1999. Since Wunsdorff had played an important in the creation of the armored arm, (Panzerwaffe) , a detailed museum was at the time being
set up but not complete depicting that singular history.

I was surprised to see a bust of Lenin since the Soviet presence in Wunsdorf had ended 6 years earlier.

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The article points out only one woman is among these statues, that of Queen Luise of Mecklenburg-Strelitz, a beloved figure, if not politically shortsighted , in popular Prussian-German history , an image reinforced by her relatively short life,

It was she and her brother heading the war party who goaded her timid husband the King into a very unwise, disastrous and down right stupid decision to declaring war against Napoleon, a decision that cost her brother his life and the ruin of her kingdom.

Her statue should be displayed in the German History Museum in Berlin or in Neustrelitz.

Neustrelitz , the location of her chateau (Schloss) is a nice town, have been there a few times as day trips from Berlin.

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I have been to the museum. Interesting, but certainly not a must see. Spandau, in general, is a pretty interesting place.

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Interesting, but certainly not a must see.

Well on my list of things to see in Berlin, the Unveiled exhibit ranks 72 places above the Pergamon. But thats me.

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@ periscope....Thanks for the link on the Zitadelle . I still have not seen what is of primary interest for me in Spandau, ie, the Rathaus and the Church which feature the WW1 memorial plaques to German soldiers and also the Zitadelle.

The article above mentions in the course of its history Spandau served or rather functioned as a Prussian Garnisonstadt. It certainly was that in 1806 when the French reached it after having inflicted disastrous defeats on 2 Prussian armies on the same day that had set out that morning to meet the French.

I didn't get to Spandau until very late in the travels in Germany. The first time was 2016. Immediately I thought I should have come here during the cold war days, either in early 1970s or in '87 when I did have the time. Different vibes (totally subjective) in Spandau, one doesn't feel one is in Berlin.

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the Unveiled exhibit ranks 72 places above the Pergamon

The Pergamon has never interested me enough to visit, so I'm right there with you.

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I still have not seen what is of primary interest for me in Spandau,
ie, the Rathaus and the Church which feature the WW1 memorial plaques
to German soldiers and also the Zitadelle.

Fred, you will much enjoy seeing these sites. I found all very interesting. The Rathaus is quite large.