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Day Trip on the Rhine River from Frankfurt

Hello,

We are planning a big European trip in July with family. We have a long layover in Frankfurt before we head to Greece--approximately 8 hours. We would like to plan a trip on the Rhine River. I've read a number of blogs and articles on this subject but I think I need some more clarification on the best way to do this with the time we have to spend. I get the impression that getting to St. Goar or St. Goarshausen and riding down to Rüdesheim is the best and fastest way to tour the river. I assume getting a car service or uber to take us to the town and then jump on a cruise is the fastest way to go. Looks like most people recommend KD for the river cruise. Any advice on how to accomplish this trip is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Tina

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The most common advice would be to catch a train, get off at Bingen, get to the docks, cruise the river on KD lines down to St Goar or Koblenz, then train back.

You can try to find resources to time it out, but off hand, I would say you do not have time. You are probably looking at close to 3 hours total of train time, a couple hours on the cruise, which sounds promising, but you need a couple hours to get back through security and to your gate, plus just time getting between planes, trains, and boats. Another logistical issue is that the boats do not leave every 15 minutes from Bingen, more like every couple hours in high season, so timing of arrival in Bingen, and departing on a boat would be key.

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Are you arriving from a non Schengen country? If so, it could take an hour from the time your plane arrives at the gate until you are through Passport Control and on your way to the exit. Add more time if you have carryon luggage to store. Hope your driver doesn't take long to pick you up and then at least an hour to St Goarshausen if traffic is optimal. You would need to catch the boat with only a minimal wait; but I believe the trip upstream to Rudesheim takes an hour longer than the downstream cruise. Then slightly more than half an hour back to the airport. Arriving at the airport at least 2 hours before your flight.

Theoretically possible; but only if all the stars align.

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Going from St. Goar to Rudesheim is going upstream, so will take a lot longer (almost double the time) than going the opposite direction.

You would need to take the train or a car service to one of the ports. Then get to the dock, get on the boat for whatever duration you choose, get off, make your way to the train station, and take the train back to the airport. Then go through security and get to your gate.

The boats don’t run frequently. Maybe every 2-3 hours. If you miss the boat, you’re out of luck. You could always just take the train. You see the same scenery, since the train tracks run right next to the river. And the train travels much faster than the boat.

Use the DB Navigator app to see if train times would with your layover time. The direct train to Bacharach (as an example) takes about 55 minutes. Then you would walk to the KD dock (maybe 15 minutes). Driving is similar. So let’s say 1.5 hrs. Then travel time if 1hr 45 minutes to St. Goar (for example) Then walking to the train station, maybe 20 minutes. Then the train back to the airport is about 1hr 50 minutes with a connection. So 7 hrs total. Which is not enough time, given the need to go through security.

If you really want to see the Rhine, you could just take the train each direction.

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"We would like to plan a trip on the Rhine River."

OK.

"We have a long layover in Frankfurt before we head to Greece--approximately 8 hours."

Not very specific, but then there is no way to know what exactly will happen on this day in the way of delays, etc. anyway.

What you can do: get a tentative plan in place in case things work out favorably. Below is an itinerary based on published 2024 train and cruise schedules for a random date in July... it assumes you'll be able to board a train at FRA's Regionalbahnhof station buy 9 am. Total outing time = 4.5 hours:

1) FRA airport > Bingen Rhein Stadt (train, 9:00 - 10:03) (per DB.) Walk to B-R boat dock, buy tickets.

2) "Castle Cruise" with Bingen-Rüdesheimer cruises. Bingen > Aßmannshausen > Burg Rheinstein, then back to Bingen (10:45 - 11:40)

Description: https://www.bingen-ruedesheimer.de/linienfahrten/linie/?permalink=castle-cruise

2024 schedule: https://www.bingen-ruedesheimer.de/linienfahrten/linie/?permalink=burgenfahrt

3) Bingen Rhein Stadt > FRA airport (train, 11:59 - 13:28; there is a scheduled 36-minute layover in MAINZ on the way, during which you could grab a sandwich at the station, perhaps.)

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Theoretically possible if everything goes exactly as planned. But I, for one, wouldn't try it. The downside of missing the flight to Greece is far worse than the not taking the river cruise. And the upside of taking the cruise is far less that the stress involved with working out the logistics and hoping all goes as planned. Rarely in today's travel environment does everything go smoothly. There are almost always snags such as delayed flights, luggage problems, slow processing at immigration, traffic jams, and such. Perhaps the thing to do with that much time, is get a hotel room in or near the airport. Plenty of time to shower up, change clothes, limber up the legs, and perhaps a short nap. Just an idea to consider.

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I have done 100s and 100s of layover tours from the Frankfurt airport, and there is no way I would do a layover tour like this with only an 8 hour layover. The trains do not run frequently enough for this. It is also too far from the airport in case of any kind of train problems, and believe me, they pop up when least expected. Not something you want on a layover.

Plan something else with your time, visit Frankfurt perhaps, do some sightseeing.

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Many here have done a tour with Frankfurt on Foot, including me. The owners traditionally have offered private layover tours that will take you wherever you would like to go in Frankfurt. It would be a little less stressful than trying to make it to the Rhine.

https://frankfurtonfoot.com/

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"I get the impression that getting to St. Goar or St. Goarshausen and riding down to Rüdesheim is the best and fastest way to tour the river. I assume getting a car service or uber to take us to the town and then jump on a cruise is the fastest way to go. Any advice on how to accomplish this trip is greatly appreciated."

There's been no advice here so far on how to arrange a car service/taxi/uber for your outing. Maybe that's the best plan. You could leave FRA right after you exit security, and your service would take you back to FRA right after your cruise. No matter what time you leave FRA, there's no train schedule to work around, no connections to make or miss - only the cruise boat schedules.

So far, it seems like no one here has any personal advice to offer on the topic of a dependable personal driver. I know I don't.

There's a recent thread on private transport at the Tripadvisor forum where specific company names are mentioned. Maybe that will be helpful:

https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g187337-i301-k14475949-Airport_Transfer_Services_from_FRA-Frankfurt_Hesse.html

Whether by train or by private driver, you should...

  • Begin the cruise either in Bingen or Rüdesheim, the closest Rhine towns to FRA within the scenic zone.

  • Choose a Cruise - either #1 or #2 below. All take 1.5 hours or less. B-R times below are published for 2024. K-D times are from 2023, not yet published but likely the same or similar in 2024.

1) The classic Rhine Cruise ("Loreley cruise") takes you one-way downstream and ends in St. Goarshausen or St. Goar (across the river from each other.) You will see more of the river with this cruise, but your return trip to FRA will be longer. Driver must meet you downstream.

K-D from R'heim at 9:00 (or 11:00); from Bingen at 9:15 (or 11:15.)
K-D terminates in St. Goarshausen at 10:45 (or 12:50.)

B-R from R'heim at 11:00; from Bingen at 11:15
B-R terminates in St. Goarshausen at 12:45

2) Castle Cruise: a round-trip cruise of castles closest to FRA with B-R. Your driver can pick you up at the same place you were dropped off.

From R'heim at 10:30; from Bingen at 10:45
Terminates in Bingen at 11:40; in R'heim at 12:00

Driving time to either Bingen or Rüdesheim from FRA = roughly 40-45 minutes according to viamichelin.

So you have a variety of cruise start times... 9:00, 9:15, 10:30, 10:45, 11:00, 11:15. But you don't have to choose one right now. Once you've met your driver, you can determine which cruise time is the most feasible and which cruise dock to use.

Let's say you land at FRA at 7:00. Exit security, meet driver 8:00. #1 option looks doable...

  • FRA > Bingen docks w/ driver (45 minute drive + 20-min cushion) 8:00 - 9:05
  • Loreley cruise Bingen > St. Goarshausen 9:15 - 10:45
  • St. Goarshausen > FRA return trip w/ driver 10:45 - 11:55 (viamichelin estimate)
  • With 8 hours between flights, 3 hours of waiting time at FRA remain.

Let's say you land at 8:00. Exit security, meet driver 9:00. #2 option looks doable...

  • FRA > Rüdesheim docks w/ driver (45 minute drive + 20-min cushion) 9:00 - 10:05
  • Castle Cruise Rüdesheim > Rüdesheim 10:30 - 12:00
  • R'heim > FRA with driver 12:00 - 12:45
  • With 8 hours between flights, 3.25 hours of waiting time at FRA remain.

I don't see a plan like this, with time cushions like this, as risky - just as long as your driver is reliable.

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tina, it would be handy to have your booked arrival and departure times at the airport so we can see which of Russ's plans might work...

By the way, lunch on the ship?

Posted by
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Be aware that the water level in the Rhine can fall during the summer months. Our day trip a couple of years ago was cancelled and a number of the river cruise companies have had to transport passengers by bus.

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Thanks to everyone that replied. Looks like we actually have a 10 hour layover. I'm not sure if that makes a big difference--let me know. Also, if we stay in Frankfurt for the day, I appreciate anyone's thoughts on the best things to do and especially places to eat.

Tina

**We land at 8:45 am and leave at 7:00 pm.

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Is it doable? Probably. With some of the road construction going on
around Frankfurt you are creating a possible recipe for missing a
flight. I wouldn’t risk doing any of this on public transportation.

Calvados II: Will this road construction you mention be underway in July? If so, would this not impact transfer by private means? How do you see road construction around Frankfurt affecting train travel between Frankfurt and the Rhine towns?

I wouldn’t want to run myself ragged after a long flight and then be
in a race to get back to the airport and then fly for several hours
again.

For the outing Calvados II proposed to St. Goar for a southbound cruise: By train + cruise boat, you will be sitting, mostly, with some platform transfers, a short walk of 5 minutes or less between St. Goar station and the St. Goar cruise dock, and a similar short walk of 5 minutes or so from the cruise boat dock in Bingen to Bingen's Rhein Stadt station (a shorter walk than if you get off in Rüdesheim.) More like stretching your legs than running or racing, really.

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According to the July 4 DB schedule, the 10:15 regional .train from FRA's Regionalbahnhof station (or any earlier regional train) would be needed to make the 12:20 southbound K-D cruise from St. Goar to Bingen (15:00) - which will mean arrival by train back at FRA by 16:30 or so.

If you do not make that 10:15 train (late flight, whatever,) you can of course still do the river by train only and return by train only later; suggest you take the train beyond St. Goar to Boppard in this case - you'll see a little more of the river - and have lunch on the waterfront and a stroll around town..

RE train, FRA > Boppard direct: 11:24 - 12:39

RE train, Boppard > FRA direct: 15:16 - 16:33

(An earlier return to FRA by direct RE train is possible as well: 13:16 - 14:33.)