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Customs in Munich before catching train to Salzburg

We're landing in Munich Saturday, November 24th at 8:10am, and hopefully immediately after clearing immigration we're taking a train to Salzburg. How long (on average) does it take to clear customs in Munich?

I think I heard somewhere we can't get a Bayern ticket until after 9am on Saturdays (is that true?) but I don't imagine we'll be free to get on a train quite by then anyway.

I haven't looked at the train schedule yet, but we're hoping to get to Salzburg by lunch time. We will have 7 glorious days in Salzburg! Then train back to Munich on December 1 and spend a couple of days there before flying home.

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The following is information about the Bayern ticket from their website:

The State of Bavaria is offering for day excursions by train a special ticket, the so-called

Bayern-Ticket

The ticket allows up to 5 adults traveling together to use unlimited all regional trains in Bavaria for one day. It is valid on all regional trains in 2nd class.
Regional trains are all trains with the designating letters RB, RE, IRE, ALX, S-Bahn, BOB (Bayerische Oberlandbahn), M (Meridian).

For families: 1 person of the adult group (parent or grandparent) can be accompanied by an unlimited number of own children/grandchildren aged under 15 for free.

The ticket covers also travels to following destinations outside Bavaria: Salzburg, Kufstein, Reutte, Ulm and return.

The ticket is valid
weekdays Mon - Fri from 9 a.m. to 3 a.m. the following day (18 hours)
Saturdays, Sundays and public holidays from midnight to 3 a.m. the following day (27 hours).

Price of the Bayern-Ticket 1 traveller EUR 25,-, for every person more additionally EUR 6,- (max. 5 adults)
valid for 1 person EUR 25,-

valid for 2 persons EUR 31,-*
valid for 3 persons EUR 37,-*
valid for 4 persons EUR 43,-*
valid for 5 persons EUR 49,-*

  • Prices for tickets purchased at ticket machines or online via internet. At ticket counters, where staff is working, EUR 2,- servive charge more.

David

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Full official information of DB to ticket mentioned in #1. Also Q&A on that page (time question):
https://www.bahn.de/en/view/offers/regional/regional-day-ticket-for-bavaria.shtml

"How long (on average) does it take to clear customs in Munich?"
Before you have passport / ID check. Duration depends on how much people arrive in parallel and how much staff is on duty. difficult to forecast. Also a question if you have something to declare at customs.
http://www.zoll.de/EN/Private-individuals/Travel/Entering-Germany/entering_germany_node.html

In easiest case only customs is just a walk though after grabbing luggage which can last ~ 20 minutes. Plus passport check 5-20 minutes.

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Customs for most people is a less than 10 second walk-through the green door. Customs is about what you have in your bags and on your person.

Immigration (where they check the person, and that the person is admissible at the time, and when you get your passport stamped) is what takes the time, if you are held up anywhere. Queues can be short and fast or long and slow. Anywhere from a few minutes to quite a long time - depending on how many planes have landed and where they are from.

If you want to be in Salzburg for lunch will you plan on a late lunch?

8:10 touchdown. 9:15 or so walking out. Half an hour or so on an S-Bahn to München Ost which saves a little time over going to the Hbf and find a seat heading towards Salzburg (easier to get a seat at Hbf, so maybe add the extra half hour for changing at Hbf is worth it after all but you'll be later for lunch). So anyway now its around 9:45 or so. Trains to Salzburg from München Ost (German for Munich East) are xx:04 and xx:34, and take about 1:40. 9 minutes is a reasonable connection time to go from something like platform 1 to platform 8 but you can't dawdle. I'd prefer taking an earlier s-Bahn to allow more change time, but going for a fastest trip. If you are on the 10:04 from Ost you get to Salzburg Bf at 11:42, so by the time you check in or leave your luggage maybe a lunch around 1? Me? I'd take it steady and go to München Hbf with no rushing and hope perhaps for the later train, having a chance for toilets and snack purchases. I'd hope for lunch around 2 or so.

That's of course if your plane is on time.

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No time restrictions on Bayern Ticket on Saturdays. But you can only take the regional trains - NO IC or ICE with a Bayern Ticket - so you will be on the Meridian trains. The IC trains on that route take about the same time but cost more.

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My personal average time from leaving the plane to the S-Bahn is 45 min (from T2, including picking up checked luggage). At immigration, save time by queuing up at "All passports", not at Schengen only lines; normally it's an affair of a few minutes. At customs, you just take the green line (nothing to declare). You save time when you buy your Bayernticket from one of the vending machines on the left side of the DB counter (which are hidden to people coming from the gates and therefore less frequented than those to the right). Unlike Nigel, I do not think it makes sense to go all the way to the main station just to secure a seat. I'd go in Munich East to the head of the train (i.e. to the NE side of the platform), there is almost always something free (except on peak days, but then you won't find a seat at the main station either if you are not already standing on the platform when the train pulls in).

NB. Meridian trains leave Munich east every hour at min. 04. Trains departing at min. 27 are EC's, which are not accessible with a Bayern ticket.

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You can actually purchase your Bayern Ticket from the website, print at home and have it in hand when you arrive into Munich. Yes, there are automated machines to buy your ticket there, but if you're really trying to get to Salzburg by lunch time then every second saved counts.

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Right, but when the cursed airline you have chosen commits an EPIC FAIL there will be no refund for your Bayern ticket.

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Or Bayern Ticket is available on the DB app, and I think it is available on the MVV app.

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Yes, and you can book it while waiting at the luggage carousel using the free airport WiFi (adimttetly it's a bit inconvenient, since you have to register when using it the first time).

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I've always found Immigration (pass port check) to go quickly in Munich. It's on the same floor as your gate, at the middle of the concourse (assuming you're using the old part of T2). When you exit Immigration you go down elevators to the luggage carousel (whether you have checked luggage or not). When I've flown into MUC, I've always gone through Immigration and gotten to luggage pickup before the luggage arrived (I carryon, but the girl seated next to me on the plane was still at the carousel waiting for her luggage when I exited Customs). I'm just saying that your biggest delay on arriving will probably be getting checked luggage.

There is also a bank ATM in the room with the carousel.

If you know what you are doing, it takes only a minute to get your ticket from the machine on the S-bahn plataform, but if you buy the Bayern-Ticket online, it's valid for the entire day, so the airline would have to mess up hugely for you to lose the ticket.

One thing you should know - take the S8 to München Ost. The departure board shows only the S1 as going to Ost, but that's confusing. Ost is the S1's final destination. It goes around to the west side of town first, to the Hbf, and then through the main S-Bahn tunnel under town to Ost, and it takes longer to get there than does the S8, which doesn't show Ost as a destination. The S8 will show another town west of Munich (probably Herrsching or Weßling) as it's final destination, but it goes early to München Ost, then through the tunnel and on to it's final destination.

1 person of the adult group (parent or grandparent) can be accompanied
by an unlimited number of own children/grandchildren aged under 15 for free.

The group with unlimited children/grandchildren of the first adult can also include a second adult, related or not, for example, the second parent, a child over 14, or just a friend. Or the group can include up to five people of any age. But the group cannot include unlimited children and more than two adults, or two adults and all the children of either adult. Someone tried this once with both parents, multiple children, and one over fourteen child. The conductor made them buy a second full fare ticket for the older child. He could have fined them. So one adult with all of their under 15 children is 25€; Add a second adult, and it's 31€ with all of the first person's children.

we can't get a Bayern ticket until after 9am on Saturdays

You can buy a Bayern-Ticket anytime in advance, but it will be dated and only valid on the date shown. When you use a ticket automat, it will ask you if you want it for today, tomorrow, or another day. If you select "another day", it will show you a calendar to select the validity date. On weekend days, you can use it at any time. On weekdays, you can buy it at any time, but you can only use it after 9 AM. You can start travel before 9, but you must have full fare ticket coverage for any travel before 9. Sometimes a train from Munich Hbf will leave a few minutes before 9. Look at the schedule for that train and see the first station at which it stops after 9, then purchase tickets to cover your travel to that station. Once you get to that station it will be after 9, and you can use the Bayern-Ticket.