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Confused on booking train travel within Germany!

We haven't traveled to Europe from the US in 13+ years and never within Germany. We need to get train tickets asap from Boppard (Rhine valley) to Zell am See (Austria), but the options are confusing. We speak zero German. Searching this forum, it was recommended to book directly with DB. Can someone help me understand what selections I should be making? Screenshot of current criteria is below. We definitely need at least 30 minutes transfer time to keep it from being stressful, esp in places like Frankfurt. We don't mind making a couple of connections. All of our train trips are one way. We don't have any kind of special card or discount. 2 adults, one 11 year old child.

Current Search criteria: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dqP6clImg0oM6IecbI86zTI5GfBPrDrd/view?usp=sharing

Current results: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PJmBsNQGR0WJTGVmZDDVkd4WX19U7lI_/view?usp=sharing

Do these results look correct? Is any one better than the others?

Train Rides:

Berlin > Boppard

Boppard > Zell am See This is the one I'm most concerned about

Zell am See > Munich

Posted by
9716 posts

there is a DB site that is tn English - bahn.com

Posted by
2 posts

Thanks, @stan - It's not that it's not in the English language, it's just confusing since we don't know the area or what to expect.

Posted by
26581 posts

With dates someone might help you. A random check of Boppard > Zell am See is a 8 to 10 hour trip with not less than 3 changes. Sounds pretty miserable. Look for a bus or s car.

Posted by
2705 posts

The DB Navigator shows a convenient connection with a transfer in Frankfurt and then another one in St. Johann just before your final destination, departing at 9:16 a.m. Please be prepared that the first train from Boppard to Frankfurt will be very crowded, and don’t hesitate to ask to sit in the seat next to someone who has put it's bag on it . Unfortunately, people’s behavior on the train (and not just there) leaves more and more to be desired.

Posted by
263 posts

We definitely need at least 30 minutes transfer time to keep it from being stressful, esp in places like Frankfurt.

You don’t need 30 minutes to change trains.

Posted by
8203 posts

That schedule gives you 1+ hrs in both Frankfurt and Munich. Should be plenty of time, just kind of miserably long and a bad hour to arrive.

Other schedules... 9:16 - 20:22 with the same transfer parameters gives you 1:20 minutes in Frankfurt and 0:38 minutes in Salzburg. I like that one better - and it has only two transfers to make instead of three.

For such a long trip, my strategy is usually NOT to spend a full sighsteeing day traveling. Have you thought about breaking up the trip with an overnight stop, possibly in Munich or Salzburg? Then you might have time to do something for half a day on each day, at least.

Posted by
26581 posts

You don’t need 30 minutes to change trains.

You dont "need" to do anything on holiday except what makes you comfortable and brings you enjoyment. If 30 minutes does that for you, then that's okay.

Posted by
23581 posts

The itinerary mentioned by Fritz has 1 hour and 20 minutes at Frankfurt Hbf, but only 13 minutes at St Johann im Pongau. However it is on the same platform, so you just get off and wait for the connecting train. If you miss it due to a late arriving train, the next train to Zell am See is 32 minutes later.

Posted by
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I'm going back to the original question because there are two screen dumps - and there should be more.

"Current results" is displaying something akin to google search results- in that you then need to click on each to see the details! All this really shows is the number of trains/transfers in the journey and the cheapest ticket prices available. The grey/green blocks for each train indicate the proportion of the total time spent on each. Black is the highest quality of train, fading through greys, green is basically city suburban network. If you click on one it will give a full itinery, which if you don't know the geography may not mean much but it also shows the transfer allowances. Whether or not you think they are tight and others disagree doesn't matter, you can alter them! In the itinery near to where it says you have 20 minutes or 5 minutes etc. is a box marked "Increase Transfer Time" and if you click on that you can set a different margin, and it will then recalculate. You can ask to arrive earlier or depart later, if one of the trains is a green "S-bahn" then definately alter that because they run at high frequenices and this gives the best chance of success.

But Fritz has also pointed out that the best option is 09:16, in which most time is spent in the higher quality train and the transfer times are more than enough. In fact the time at Frankfurt allows for a late breakfast! After that you will then get into pricing because when you click on the price it will offer others, the rule is the cheapest will have more refund/cancellation conditions that the dearest.

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3962 posts

Boppard > Zell am See is a 8 to 10 hour trip with not less than 3
changes. Sounds pretty miserable. Look for a bus or s car

A bus will be an order of magnitude more miserable than the train.

I tink part of the confusion stems from the fact that trains are not "once a day" here like in the US, but "once an hour" or better sometimes. So you search between two places, and get tons of options. So what do you take?

I usually pick the fastest one that has me leave after breakfast and arrive before dinner.

So I would book the 9:44 that gets me to Zell am See in 8:30, with 4 changes. Given that trains run at least hourly, if not better, along the route I would not worry to much about missed connections. If you miss a connection due to a delay you take the next train.

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We returned yesterday from two weeks in Germany using the DB app daily. The little bit I can share -

  • If you select the "Flexpreis" option (a little more expensive) you can change your itinerary on the fly. Sometimes the trains were late, and other options would get us headed in the same direction w/o booking another ticket. The little extra you will spend helps with peace of mind.

  • ALWAYS check before you purchase the ticket that the correct number of tickets are selected. Some days it would remember we had registered two people, other days we had to start over.

  • Do your best to not travel on the weekend. The trains were super packed. On one 4.5 hour journey, we had to stand for 3 hours across 5 changes.

It can be confusing, but DB will send updates through the app when changes are being made (timing, platform location, etc.)

You will be okay! Train travel is all part of the adventure. Enjoy your trip.

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If you select the "Flexpreis" option (a little more expensive) you can
change your itinerary on the fly. Sometimes

A good thing to be aware of: If you buy a Sparpreis ticket it becomes a Flexpreis ticket the moment one of the following things happens:
- Before travel: There is a change in the schedule. Even one minute is sufficient. Congratulations. You know have a Flexpreis ticket at a discount...
- During travel: As soon as it is clear that you will be more than 20 minutes later then expected at your destination your ticket becomes flexible and you can change on the fly.

Never pay for a new ticket if you miss a connection due to a train delay. Never. And that not just in Germany. This is the rule in all of Europe.