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Berchtesgaden vs. Ramsau (guesthouses and area)

Hello,

A friend and I are stopping in Bavaria for a couple of nights for a tranquil rest between Vienna/Salzburg and Munich.

We found two places that look great, one in Berchtesgaden proper between the town and Königsee, and the other a little further out in Ramsau by Hintersee:

Berchtesgaden/Königsee guesthouse: http://www.friedwiese.de/enska/isl.htm
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g198481-d628454-Reviews-Friedwiese_Guesthouse-Schoenau_am_Koenigssee_Upper_Bavaria_Bavaria.html

Ramsau guesthouse: https://www.hintersee-gasthaus-seeklause.de
https://www.booking.com/hotel/de/gasthaus-pension-seeklause.html

We were originally sold on Friedwiese as it has absolutely impeccable reviews, but the combination of the owner having a cat (I'm allergic, though she assured me it wouldn't be in the guest rooms and I'd be ok) and it being a little closer to town is somewhat of a downside given we want something tranquil.

That said, Seeklause is more remote/idyllic but also seemingly more touristy/crowded and less of a genuine experience? I was wondering if anyone has experience with either guesthouse, and if not, with either location as a stop. Whichever one we choose, we will likely visit the area of the other, so it's not a huge deal, but I figure it's worth asking here incase anyone's stayed at/in either.

Vielen dank!

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We stayed in Ramsau, near the iconic church, a few years ago and spent some time at Hintersee. There are several good hikes that start in that area, if you are interested in hiking. Hintersee is a busy area and felt more touristy than Ramsau proper. We stayed in a hotel in Ramsau and seemed to be the only people from the U.S,. which we enjoyed.

Will you use public transportation or will you have a car? We used the local bus system and it worked well, but some routes had 2 hour or so stretches mid-day when the buses did not run, so you need to plan for that.

My husband and I loved Ramsau. I always think travelers are missing out on so much when they plan on just a quick day trip to Berchtesgaden. The area is so beautiful.

Let me know if you want information about where we stayed and hiked.

Jennifer

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Thank you for your reply Jennifer! I would definitely be interested as to where you stayed and where you went for hiking and etc.

We agree re: Berchtesgaden area; I've been twice before, but I've never stayed for longer than a day trip which is why I've decided to do for three nights now. Ramsau looks stunning but we haven't found anywhere great to stay there yet, I realise the second guesthouse I linked is in Hintersee not Ramsau... but figured it was close enough. At the moment I'm leaning towards staying at the Berchtesgaden guesthouse which is inbetween Berchtesgaden and Königsee. But will definitely take a Ramsau recommendation!

Thank you :)

Max

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Ramsau looks stunning but we haven't found anywhere great to stay
there yet

I found Anfanglehen in Ramsau great. It's a working farm whose owners rent out rooms in the farmhouse where they live. It has a gorgeous location and is very peaceful. Two potential drawbacks for you:

  1. The owner only speaks German, so you need some basic German language skills.
  2. It has a 4 night minimum, so you would need to add a night to your itinerary. I stayed 5 nights and found plenty to do in the area. I would gladly return and spend a longer stretch of time there.
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I would definitely be interested as to where you stayed and where you
went for hiking and etc.

A friend and I did an easy hike from St Sebastian church through the Zauberwald (Magic/Enchanted Forest) to (and around) Hintersee.

We also did a hike through Wimbachklamm (Wimbach Gorge) and on to a snack hut above the gorge. One can continue on to a high outlook on that path, but we did not.

We also went to Königssee, caught the boat across the lake to the Salet stop, walked to Obersee, hiked around the right side of the lake and then through a beautiful alpine meadow to Röthbachfall.

We enjoyed all three. None were terribly strenuous, though #2 had a bit of an incline and would have been more strenuous if we had gone all the way to the top.

David Harper, one of the owners of Eagles Nest Historical Tours, has written an excellent guide book for the area. It includes 32 hikes of varying difficulty. The guide is available on Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/Your-Complete-Guide-Berchtesgaden-Obersalzberg/dp/3944501764/

The Cicerone guide Walking in the Bavarian Alps also has a number of hikes for the area.

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We stayed in this hotel, which looks a bit pricey but it included a wonderful breakfast and dinner. It has spa facilities which we did not use because we were so busy hiking, but pool and spa area looked lovely. The hotel is just a 5 minute walk from the beautiful church in Ramsau. https://www.rehlegg.de/index.asp

Our first hike was a bit of an adventure. I had a hike planned that started from the Hintersee area. We took the bus and got off at the Hintersee stop. All the other passengers (all German speakers) went rushing for another bus in the parking area. No one was heading the direction of our planned hike. I said to my husband "Let's go where all the Germans are going". He was a bit dubious but I convinced him that the Germans probably knew more about good hiking than we did. I asked a young man before we got on the bus where it was going. He did not speak much English, but pointed up in the mountains and said "To Austria!" So off we went to Austria. (A couple of helpful hints: This bus also stopped at the National Park building, but there was a huge crowd there and not everyone got on. So get on at Hintersee. Also, even though most buses in the area are free with your hotel guest card, this one required a paid ticket - maybe about 5 euros.) The bus took us up to a pass right across the border into Austria. Google map "Alpengasthaus Hirshbichl" and you can find where we went. When you get off the bus there is a guesthouse, restrooms and signboards with maps. ( Also, if you are smarter than we were, you will check the bus schedule back down to Hintersee, before you set out on a long hike. ) We picked the hike to Kallbrunnalm, got lost a few times, but when we saw a beer truck heading up the mountain, we figured we were on the right track. We had the hike almost to ourselves and were rewarded with beautiful open meadows, incredible views, cows, cowbells and a restaurant with great food, beer and wine. We would have stayed up there longer, but realized we had no idea when the last bus went down to Hintersee.

Our second hike was to Halsalm, also starting in the Hintersee area. Going clockwise, we had gravel road going up, another beautiful meadow with views, a small house where the owners sold light lunches and beverages, and a rockier trail going down. Very worthwhile hike. A big cultural lesson - I had been taking pictures of lots of cows on our hikes. The house where we purchased refreshments had an attached barn-like room that you walked through to go up to the interior window to order food. There was a cow in the room and I took a picture. The woman taking orders was not happy. I did not know that this was their home. I thought it was a small restaurant and did not understand I was taking a picture inside her house. I deleted it and she was fine, especially when she realized I was from the U.S. and not familiar with that type of set-up.

I wish I remembered the route # of the bus that went over the Austrian border. You can probably ask at your hotel. I will try and find pictures of Kallbrunnalm.

I will try to find pictures to post. Happy hiking.

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I like Gasthof Auzinger near the Hintersee. Check that they are open and make reservations. Good food and live folk music on Wedensday evenings.