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Hi,
Me and two of my buddies are planning to do a self supported cycling trip along the Danube starting from Salzburg, starting on the 15th of May till the 24th of May 2016. We plan to cover about 600- 700 Kms in these ten days.

We are reaching Munich on the 13th May 2016 afternoon and our return flight to India is from Munich itself on the 24th of May 2016

In India we have regularly been doing long distance self supported cycling excursions, on our fully loaded touring bicycles

We were a bit confused about whether to carry our own bicycles from India or to rent out similar bicycles which are capable of long distance touring, from Munich - for the duration of our tour.

Since carrying the bicycles all the way from India going to be fairly expensive and tedious affair, we would prefer to rent out two touring bicycles from Munich on the 13th of May, which we will return in Munich on the 23rd of May 2016. We will be carrying our own panniers and all cycling gear.

We will be grateful if you can help us in suggesting a store/agency in Munich, from where two such bicycles with front and rear racks to mount the panniers can be rented for 10 days.

Thank you!

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Personally for me, I would bring my own bike. At least in the US, the only charge with be the excess baggage charge for a standard boxed bike. For that reason we moved to the BikeFridays a number of years. No charge for a Bike Friday. We do attract a fairly amount of attention in the airport when we pull the suitcase off the checked baggage, go into the corner, assemble the bike, hook up the trailer, throw carry-on luggage into the trailer and ride out of the airport. Have been stopped a couple of times from taking the bikes into an airport so we have to pack the bikes on the curb.

For any long distance rides I would want my own saddle and a bike that I know is properly fitted to me, with appropriate gearing, and in good repair. My guess is that the fees to rent the bikes would be greater than the fees charged by the airlines. The above reference web site does not show the specifications for their "trekking bike". I am not impressed by the picture. At 125E for the week is that less than the airline surcharge?

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The following website is a good introduction to bike touring Germany:
http://www.bicyclegermany.com/

We did two weeks of bike touring in Germany with a German friend booking the tour through a self-guided touring agency. (The booked the hotels, provided route instructions and maps, and the rental bikes). We were happy that we rented and did not bring our own bikes. The rentals were perfect for the road and pavement (and unpaved) surfaces we rode over those two weeks. The rental bikes had 38 mm robust tires, fenders, rack and pannier and lights. My 25 mm tires would not have been a happy experience on the cobblestones, pre-cast concrete plank roads and occasional unpaved roads we encountered between stretches of smooth pavement.

We did bring our own saddles, and my wife brought pedals. I used non-cleated touring shoes.

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If you're going to get a rental bike in Munich, the word used for that is "Fahrradverleih"

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But 25mm is not a touring tire but closer to a standard road bike. Both my touring bikes are designed to carry a hundred pounds plus a two hundred pound rider. My Bike Friday is 40mm tire and my other, big wheel bike is a 37mm. But that is my point. You want to be sure that bikes your rent are designed for the task. You don't want to on a wimpy 22, 25mm road bike tire.

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Yes, a 25 mm is not a touring tire. I should have clarified that our self-guided Mecklinburg and Rügen/Ostsee bike tours were luggage supported. That is, the tour services picked up and transferred our luggage each day. The only thing in our panniers were rain gear, camera and tools/pump in addition to maps.

Our tour was similar to supported Backroad tours that offer 25 mm tire road bikes on their European tours. The 25 mm tires may have been appropriate for other areas of Germany but not the northeast areas we toured. https://www.backroads.com/why/great_gear#titanium

PS We bought our Bike Friday Tandem Tuesday from a retired United Airlines 747 Captain. He and his wife bought the Bike Friday on his retirement. They expected to use it biking in Europe with his retiree travel benefit but ended up renting bikes during their annual German bike trips. They found renting easier than packing the Bike Friday.

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The OP question was about unsupported touring of about 40 miles/day. Mileage isn't that great but they are hauling all of their gear - maybe 30 pounds. A bike on a supported tour is just you and the bike and there is probably a sag wagon somewhere in the area. Under those conditions I would tolerate a some what inferior bike but not hauling my own gear. When we were in Bruges we rented local bikes for a day on the canals. The bikes were more of a hybrid, heavy tires, limited gears but it was all flat and we stopped a lot. I could live with that. But hauling your own gear for 40, 50 miles is a different deal.

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I'm with Frank, kind'a. I used to be a very avid bicyclist - did a lot of centuries and Ride the Rockies twice. I want my own bicycle! It's high performance and set up just for me. But the difference is, I'm not willing to take it to Europe. There are enough unique things to do in Europe, in my mind, that I can't do at home. But I can bicycle at home; I don't need to go to Europe to do that.

To me, traveling in Europe and bicycle touring are two entirely different things. Do one or the other; don't try to do both at the same time.

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Re road surfaces. I found the following accurate in my limited northeastern Germany experience:

https://www.adventurecycling.org/adventure-cyclist/online-features/tour-it-yourself-cycling-in-europe/

One special mechanical note about Germany is that, while bike paths
are everywhere, the material and quality of the paths is variable.
Gravel and pavement are marked identically on the ADFC maps, and curbs
and tree-root bumps are common and can cause pinch-flats. The Germans
adapt to this with fatter tires (35mm or more), which might be wise
for a lengthy tour there.

http://www.bicyclegermany.com/path_conditions.html

Pavement: I want to stress that most of the time we ride on some type
of pavement. If we are not on an asphalted surface, the pavement could
consist of concrete or any of several types of brick pavers.
Nevertheless, for the last several years, I have snapped a photo every
time we encounter an unusual path condition. The photo on the right is
a concrete path and on the left is a photo of an asphalt path; both
mean perfectly smooth riding.

Gravel path with puddles. Gravel: The second most common path
condition is gravel. The gravel is typically tightly packed and can be
as smooth as concrete or asphalt but it is subject to mud puddles in
wet weather (left). If I were to guess, after over 20,000 kilometers
of riding bicycle paths in Germany, I would say that 70% of the time,
the paths are paved with either asphalt, concrete, or some other type
of relatively smooth paving like brick pavers. The remaining 30% is
mostly tightly packed gravel. But what is not gravel is all the
remaining path conditions discussed on this page. These non standard
portions turn out to be the most memorable portions, unfortunately.

Dirt: Dirt Paths occur occasionally. The photo of the single track on
the right is one such path but as most dirt bicycle paths, it is well
packed and quite safe in all but the wettest conditions. There are
several short stretches of dirt paths we have experienced. single
track foot path but part of bike path tooSome are double track paths
like the one on the left. Others are a bit dicey to ride because they
are narrow foot paths but nevertheless signed as part of the official
bicycle path. An example is one we found in a bird reserve (also on
the left).

Cobblestone bike path, Cobble roads are made of rocks, or in this case
granite blocks chiseled into uniform sizes and set in a sand base by
workers on hands and knees.

Short steep paver and stone way

Plattenweg (a path made from Platten) is another instance of using
less than ideal material for a bicycle path. A "Platten" is a
concrete plate with two or four indentations for handles. They vary in
size but typically are about 3 feet wide and 6 feet long. [For a
paved path these are brutal.

Sand, especially deep sand: By far the worst path condition is deep
sand like the photo on the right. The German state of Brandenburg,
which surrounds Berlin, is infamous for sandy soil but that is not the
only place in Germany that has sandy soils. The northern lowlands
around Mecklenburg-Vorpommerm has a lot of sandy deposits but is not
sandy all over.

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Salzburg is not on the Danube cycle path. Salzburg lies on the river Salz, which joins the river Inn before meeting the Danube at Passau. Salzburg is around 135-160km (depending on route) from Munich. There are regular train services between the 2 cities and you can take your bikes on most trains (for a small fee), Alternatively you could cycle to Salzburg via, for example, the Mangfall Radweg to Rosenheim, then drop down onto the Bodensee-KonigseeRadweg into Salzburg. (a distance of about 150km). From Salzburg to the Donau Radweg (Danube cycle path) is at least another 110km (shortest route to join the path at Passau). But that means you will have already cycled about 260km before you reach the Danube. If the Danube is your bike route of choice then you would be better heading either to Regensburg (130-140km) or Deggendorf (160-170km), from Munich, to join the path. Both easily reached by train if you don't want to cycle. Arguably the best portion of the Danube is from Passau to Vienna (about 300km).
http://www.bayerninfo.de/bike has info about all the main bike paths in Bavaria
http://www.bettundbike.de/en for bike friendly accommodation
http://www.deutsche-donau.com/Activities/Cycling
http://www.donauradweg.at/en/danube-cycle-path.html

I completed this same trip about 20 years ago. From Salzburg, we took the train to Passau and started our cycling there. We cycled to Krems and took a boat the rest of the way to Vienna. I brought my bicycle from Canada but my friend rented a bicycle. She gave up part way along (in Melk) and took train/bus to Krems and waited for me there. I must admit that we did not stick to the Danube path all the way along and did some significant climbs, which were difficult with my 10 speed bike but brutal with the rental bike. We were also very young and fit but the rental bike was not up to the challenge of alpine roads.

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check out www.crazyguyonabike.com for several good journals on trips down the Danube

You might have better luck with rentals starting in Passau. one place I have seen mentioned in the journals is Fahrrad Klinik (http://www.fahrradklinik-passau.de)

Also http://www.fahrradverleih-bahnhof-passau.de/pages/en/home.php - they aslo have a shop in Regensburg which would be another good place to start from

Cycling in my opinion is the best way to tour. Half my trips have been cycling and I hope there will be others in the future (after the Frau gets a new knee ! )

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We did the Danube recently from Ulm to Vienna. We rented our bikes in Munich at the train station from Radius Tours. They were great. We came back by train. The trains are very accommodating for bikes. I would rent rather than bring my own. I cannot speak to cycling to Salsburg....no knowledge on that area.

You might also consider a shorter trip in terms of geographic area. there are many cycling routes throughout southern Germany and Austria. If you rent bikes in Passau or Regensburg, they will let you leave your bike in Vienna and pick it up for you for a small fee of around 30 Euros. Just google "cycle southern Germany" or "cycle southern Austria"....you will see lots of tour companies where you can get ideas for cycling trips. Have fun!