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Also trains from Salzburg to Munich

Are there any discount trains running this route? Thanks.

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There are no discount trains, just discount seats/tickets - varies via train.

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Depends on what you call a discount? The local BRB trains you can use a Bayern Ticket after 9 am week days (all day weekends and holidays) and pay a set price of 25 EUR for the first person and 8 EUR for each additional passenger up to 5 total passengers. Also gives free public transport in Bavaria for the rest of the day, including the return trip that day.

Fast trains like RJX, IC, EC trains you can buy nonrefundable advance purchase tickets for as low as 17.90 EUR per person, which is basically half price.

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If you will already be in Salzburg and can definitely make a non-refundable connection, the least expensive tickets are probably the Super Sparpreis tickets @ 17,90€ per person. But you have to use the specified train (date and time), or you forfeit your ticket, Also, 17,90€ is the starting price for these advance purchase tickets. Ticket prices are tiered, and after the lowest tier sells out, the price for the next tier goes up, so these tickets are only worthwhile if you get them early. And, the price for the second person is the same as for the first, so two people are 35,80€, and there are tickets for slightly slower, regional train that are less for the second person.

Supersparpreis tickets are valid on long distance trains of the Bahn (IC and EC) and on Austrian RailJets.

Regional trains (BRB) are only a little slower, and, depending on timing could still get you to Munich earlier. The lowest Bahn fare is the Bayern-Ticket, an all day pass (after 9 AM workdays) for unlimited travel on regional trains in Bavaria. (Note, because German Rail runs the trains between the Salzburg Hbf and the German border, Salzburg Hbf is considered a border station for the Bayern-Ticket. It's 23€ for the first person, 8€ each for the next four co-travelers (33€ for two). These prices are the walk-up prices and don't go up. You can buy a Bayern-Ticket for that price minutes before you travel. The price is about 2€ more for personal service at a manned ticket counter. Last time I checked, there were Bahn ticket automat and a ticket counter in the Salzburg Hbf and the Austrian Rail automats sold the Bayern-Tickets.

Transdev, the company that operates the regional trains on this line under contract with the Bahn also has a day pass, called the Guten-Tag-Ticket, which is like the Bayern-Ticket, but for 1€ less.

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Frank, I used to post a lot in the old format. It's beed a long time, but we've actually met. If nI go to Rome2Rio it sends me to get tickets through OMIO? Do you know them?

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The train ticket is only for my 21 year old.

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If nI go to Rome2Rio it sends me to get tickets through OMIO? Do you know them?

Why don't you just buy them from the people who run the trains?
https://www.bahn.com/en
https://tickets.oebb.at/en/ticket?cref=oebb-header

Again, the Bayern Ticket gets your 21 yo son the ability to take any one of the hourly BRB trains he wants and gives him local transport until 3 am the next day in Munich. And he just buys it when he gets to the Salzburg station out of a vending machine.

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I have checked out both links above and I can't find any reference to Bayern ticket. Can you help me locate it on the ap or on the site?
Thanks

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https://fahrkarten.bahn.de/privatkunde/pauschalpreisbuchen/pauschalpreis_start.post?lang=de&redirected=1&dbkanal_007=L01_S01_D001_KIN0101_bayern-adb-fallback-desk_LZ08#stay

Unfortunately, only in German, but google translate does a good job.

But you really don't want to buy it in advance, since it can be bought out of a vending machine with either Euro cash or credit card. Instructions in the vending machine are available in English by clicking on the British flag icon. As a last resort, spend another 2 EUR and buy it from the ticket window.

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Lisa, I have also found it difficult to find information online in regards to the Bayern ticket. However, I can reassure you that Sam is absolutely correct. I've used the Bayern ticket a couple times now. Once, to go to Fussen from Munich with my sons and once to do the exact route you are talking about, Salzburg to Munich, with my daughters. Like Sam, said, you just buy the ticket from the vending machine the day of. While it might seem complicated, it is really quite easy once you get to the train station. Although Salzburg is obviously in Austria, it is so close to the border that it is included in the Bayern ticket.

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I see that my link has expired, but if you go to the www.bahn.com/en then put your cursor on "Offers" and you will see "Regional offers" in the middle column. Click on that and you will see 2 columns and the the right hand one is headed by "Regional Day Tickets". That gives the details for these types of tickets. Since each German Land (analogous to a US state) has slightly different pricing structure, at the bottom of the column click on "Further Information" and you will get a list of German Lands for their tickets, but in this case, Bavaria is right out in front.

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@Lee

Last time I checked, there were Bahn ticket automat and a ticket counter in the Salzburg Hbf

The DB ticket counter in Salzburg was closed by Dec. 31. DB / BRB automats are still available. DB long distance tickets are available at the ÖBB Reisezentrum.

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I saw the price inching up, so I booked it through the DB website straight though to the airport. Was that the best way at that point?

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since you have done it don't look back. The price of a Bayern Ticket shouldn't have changed at all. Perhaps you saw a change because of exchange rate fluctuations.

Regardless if you could have done better, any differences will be tiny. It isn't an expensive route. Check one more thing off your list... (actually your daughter's list)

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Also, I couldn't find any website evidence that the Bayern Ticket covered her 1600 departure from Salzburg. It had to be that train.
Thanks again, you guys.

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Also, I couldn't find any website evidence that the Bayern Ticket covered her 1600 departure from Salzburg.

Sorry that you don't understand the system. Bayern ticket is an open ticket valid ANY time that day after 9 am. But as Nigel said its fait accompli, done deal and you don't have to worry about it any more.

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I couldn't find any website evidence that the Bayern Ticket covered her 1600 departure from Salzburg. It had to be that train.

Except ..., the Bayern-Ticket doesn't cover that train. The 1600 train is an EC (Eurocity), and those trains don't accept Bayern-Tickets. I suspect the fare you were watching was a Super Saver Fare, and that's the ticket you should have. That fare could have been "inching up" as the lower priced tiers sold out.

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And there was no 16:15 departure from Salzburg at all on any schedule.

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Thanks - I see that here in this link but I really only saw the 16:00 a few days ago.

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Is there a reason why the 21 year old can't do this themselves? I bet it would be easier. They just should have gone to the train station and bought the Bayern ticket on the day of travel...

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And there was no 16:15 departure from Salzburg at all on any schedule.

Were you looking at the Bahn schedule website? I find it difficult to believe that the 1615 regional train was not shown since that train to/from Salzburg has been running almost hourly for over a decade. But it won't show up on the schedule if you have the NV (Nahverkehr = regional transport) box under "Means of transport" unchecked. Maybe you did that?

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Even if you leave the "Local transport only" box unchecked, the hourly Meridian trains at 15 past the hour show up. "BRB" is the train designator. The ones after 9 am weekdays show a "Savings fare" of 25 EUR for one passenger, the Bayern Ticket.

However, from the other thread, Lisa's daughter landed in Denver yesterday, so this horse is dead and further beatings are pointless.

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Emily, she didn't do it herself because the getting- on- the-plane part was more important and since I couldn't confirm this ticket, I skipped the Bayern and I booked in advance. Just walking into a train station and buying the ticket on the most important day of travel is something you do when you're more confident or experienced with the program. Since I couldn't find the info I needed online and she had such spotty wifi, It was I who made it easier by just buying the damn ticket in advance. The price diiference wasn't that much, either.

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Having used the Salzburg Munich route for years, coming from Zagreb on an old but enjoyable OBB train, which is connected to the DB train at Villach, I think pre buying a ticket is the best way to go. My ticket ordered on Bahn.de is mailed to my Zagreb friends, and arrives quickly. Having the actual green ticket in my hot little hand is one less thing to do en route. I expect they will now scan tickets to reduce contact in Covid times. Once in Munich there are all sorts of local ticket deals of course. Smarter people than me can load their tickets on their smartphones or tablets of course. When I prebook tickets across Germany on Bahn.de they send them to me by email and my friends print them off for me. Must get a European friendly smartphone when travel resumes.

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Yes, her daughter should be home by now, but there is still a lesson to be learned here about using the Bahn website.

You do realize that doing what you suggest, not checking the "local transport only" box, is not the same as unchecking the NV box?

Normally, the Bahn website will show you all connections, long distance and local trains, although sometimes, I think, having the "show fastest connections" box checked will suppress some slower, local connections that are running simultaneously with faster connections. Checking the "local transport only" box will cause the website to not show long distance train connections, like ICE/IC/EC or RJ. Then it will only show regional connections (which are eligible for Länder-Tickets. A little farther down, the "means of transport" boxes allow you to selectively choose to include or exclude ICE, IC/EC, local trains (Nahverkehr), S-Bahn, buses, ships, taxis, etc. If you uncheck the Nahverkehr (NV) box, then local trains will not be shown. That's the only way, on the Bahn website anyway, that I can think of that the 1600 EC would be shown but not the 1615 BRB.

This is not just an academic exercise. It once came in handy when someone wrote to this site. They had a quandary. They wanted to travel from Amsterdam to Bacharach with a stopover in Köln, but they didn't know how long they wanted to stay in Köln, The Bahn website was offering only Amsterdam to Köln by EC, Köln to Koblenz by IC, and Koblenz to Bacharach by RB. Since an IC is a long distance train, it (date and time) is a specified train for the Sparpries ticket. They had to use that specified IC, irregardless of how long the wanted to stay in Köln.

Solution? I had them specify Köln as a stopover. Then, when they expanded "means of transport", it showed two lines of boxes, one for Amsterdam to Köln and one for Köln to Bacharach. They unchecked ICE (probably not necessary) and IC/EC from the Köln to Bacharach line. This way the Bahn offered them a ticket from Amsterdam to Köln by the EC, Köln to Koblenz by RE, and Koblenz to Bacharach by RB. Since the RE and RB are trains of the NV, by the Vor- und Nach-Lauf rule of the Bahn, they could use any regional train on those routes as long as they finished their travel by 10 AM the next morning.