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Tough Itinerary

My Mom & I are planning a 2 week trip to France. We arrive June 21st in Paris & leave from Paris the evening of July 6th. We want to see a lot of stuff & are having trouble figuring out how to get around. Also, July 1st is supposed to be a very bad day to drive. We want to see:

  • Paris (5 or 6 nights)
  • Versailles
  • maybe Chartres
  • Mont St-Michel (stay 1 night)
  • Stay in Amboise & see Chenonceaux one day & Chambord another
  • Provence: stay in Arles & see Arles, Roman stuff, Les Baux, hilltop town like Roussillon.

We are having particular trouble figuring out how to get from Mont St Michel to Amboise, and from Amboise to Arles. Trains are not convenient (they all go through Paris), driving is said to be scenic, but there's a lot of it. Can anyone recommend an itinerary for what we want to see? We were wondering whether to do Paris when we first arrive or save it for the end of the trip and maybe take the train from Paris to St Pierre des Corps in the Loire and rent a car from there to see the Loire & Provence, then take a train from Provence back to Paris & do Paris & Mont St Michel at the end. Is there anyone with lots of experience travelling through France who could help? It's supposed to be an 8 hr drive from Amboise to Arles. Are there motels one can stay in halfway between for a night? Is the drive doable? We'd really appreciate some informed advice. Thanks so much.

Posted by
21155 posts

I would favor staying in Paris at the start. You will not have to do any driving right off the plane, can recover from jet lag, and get a relaxing start. I'd probably combine Mont St Michel and Amboise with a single car rental, perhaps taking the train to Rennes, then renting a car for a few days to go north to Mont St Michel, then south to Amboise to cover that region.
Now you have a choice of driving to Provence or taking a train. Train would be quicker, and remember that fuel and tolls are a lot higher in France tan in North America. You could drop the rental car at St Pierre-des-Corps and get a train to Avignon TGV and rent another car there. That could be done in 5 hours. You would have to make a station change in Paris from Gare Montparnasse to Gare de Lyon. That can be with a bus or Metro, but maybe a taxi would be smoother.
You could also hang on to the car and drive there. There is so much to see, it might take a couple of days. Don't worry about finding places to stay. There will be lots of options.

Posted by
2393 posts

Change the order:

Paris
Provence
Amboise (You can avoid Paris by going Amboise to Le Mans then Le Mans to Rennes)
Mont St Michel
Return to Paris

Versailles & Chartres can be day trip from Paris

Posted by
16895 posts

There is a direct TGV train from St-Pierre-des-Corps at about 14:30 daily that runs to Avignon TGV station and to Marseille. You can pick up a car at either place, or continue to Arles by train if you don't yet need the car.

However, if you want to drive in both regions, it can be cheaper to keep the same car at a weekly rate (5, 6, or 7 days usually all the same price). The major agencies rarely have any significant fee to drop at a different location within France. www.autoeurope.com is a US consolidator that reps several agents.

Our tours have sometimes used Le-Puy-en-Velay as a nice town for an overnight; it's about 2/3 of the way along your route, certainly not the only option in the region.

Posted by
8554 posts

I would fly on to Provence the afternoon you arrive or perhaps take a train. End in Paris. do Mont St. Michele as a side overnight trip from Paris. You could also do the chateaux of the Loire as a day trip from Paris -- Go to Tours and join a mini van tour. Otherwise you will need a car and you don't have time to drive the length of the country.

Posted by
7175 posts

Would this work?
June 21. Arrive Paris. Train to Chartres (1N)
June 22. Pick up car. Drive to Loire Valley (2N)
June 24. Drive to Mont St Michel (1N)
June 25. Drop off car in Rennes. Train via Paris to Arles (5N)
June 30. Train to Paris (6N)
July 06. Depart Paris

There is a direct TGV from Rennes to Nimes that you may also like to take advantage of.
TGV 5348
Dep 09:10 RENNES (France)
Arr 15:01 NIMES (France)

Posted by
1406 posts

Two years ago we rented a car in Paris and drove to MSM (2 nights) via the Normandy beaches. We took an afternoon while in MSM and visited Cancale (well worth it) and then went on the Amboise for 2 nights before heading back to Paris (via Chartres). It was more time consuming to drive than I anticipated. In hindsight we spent too much time driving. Also, after seeing numerous major sites in Paris, Versailles, the Abbey at MSM, and Chenonceau near Amboise, by the time we arrived in Chartres it didn't seem overly special.

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25 posts

Hi, this is the original poster. Thanks for all of your helpful suggestions. We determined that once we were driving, it didn't make sense to mix trains and car because of the way the trains operate. I have some new questions. Based on your advice, this is what I have decided to do:

Wednesday, June 20th: Arrive in Paris. Stay 5 nights in Paris.
Monday, June 26th: Stay overnight in MSM
Tuesday, June 27th: Drive from MSM to Loire. 2 nights at Saint-Georges-sur-Cher.
Thursday, June 29th: Drive towards Provence. Stay overnight in Chaspinhac.
Friday, June 30th: Arrive in Provence. There are 3 possible places we have booked: Maison d'Hotes Douce (Comps), Le Mas Ferrand (Graveson), or L'Oustau de Mistral (Eyragues).
Tuesday, July 4th: Drop off car at Avignon & take TGV to Paris. 2 nights in Paris.
Thursday, July 6th: Fly back to NY.

Questions:

Should we rent a car in Rennes & drive it to Mont Saint Michel, or take the shuttle to and from MSM & Rennes, & rent a car at Rennes after returning there from MSM? Is it good to have a car at MSM?

Is it incovenient if the hotel in Chapinhac is outside of the town? It is a 10 minute drive to Le Puy-en-Velay and the Routes of Santiago de Compostela.

Of the 3 places in Provence I listed, which are the best locations? Would you recommend any of the particular hotels I booked?

Does it make sense to stay at one of the Provencal places I booked a few nights, then drive to Roussillon & spend a night there before returning to Paris?

Again, thanks for all of your previous help. We would appreciate your advice.

Posted by
7175 posts

Mixing train and car can make a lot of sense if it
- reduces the time taken to travel a long distance.
- saves money on fuel and tolls.
- saves headaches with traffic, navigating, parking.
- means not paying for a car to sit idle at a destination where public transport is preferable to use.

Posted by
28082 posts

And:

  • Reduces the risk of speeding tickets and ZTL or bus-lane fines.
Posted by
25 posts

Thanks for all of your responses. These are helpful in balancing car & train & knowing about renting a car. So much to think about, but so interesting!

Posted by
171 posts

I will try to answer your question on where to stay and what to see while in Provence. As I understand your itinerary you will be staying four nights in Provence and will have three days for sightseeing. That seems a very reasonable plan - of course more time would be even more reasonable.

You mention that you would like to see "Arles, Roman stuff, Les Baux, hilltop town like Roussillon". All of these places are easy drives from any of the places that you have reserved so I would just choose the one that seems most appealing to you. Les Baux would satisfy my need to visit a hilltop town so I would cross Roussillon off my list.

But I would add a few places for your consideration:

Pont du Gard: an outstanding Roman aqueduct.

Orange: Roman theater still in use today.

Glanum: Roman ruins and an area that Van Gogh painted olive trees.

Posted by
25 posts

Thanks, your reply is really helpful. I was planning to go to Pont du Gard and now I am considering Orange & Planum as well thanks to you. I'm not going to stay in Roussillon, we'll spend all 4 nights in 1 place. Thanks again!