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Suggest an itinarery for the following stops in 21 days

My wife and i are flying into Heathrow around noon. We would like to include the following by air and train and have 21 days.

My original plan was to fly to Geneva to visit Chamonix for the Alps, then fly to Bordeaux to visit the Dordogne region. From Bordeaux fly to Nice and bus the French Riviera. Take the train to Arles, Orange, and Avignon to Lyon, Beaune and back to Paris for at least 3-4 days.
We fly out of Heathrow.. Basically 2 days at most places but longer at Riviera and Paris. Too Much?

Posted by
4656 posts

2 comments.
1. Every move eats up about 1/2a day for most people. (Packing, checking out, travel to station, travel, find hotel, store luggage if you jave to wait for check in, check in, unpack......repeat)
2. Plot it on rome2rio website to see the most logical sequence, find out travel time and some costs for the logistics.

Posted by
3123 posts

You can see quite a lot of France in 21 days, but I'm puzzled as to why you're flying in & out of Heathrow if your trip focuses on France. If it's because you got a deep discount, fair enough, but I'd suggest taking just two connecting flights: (1) Heathrow to Geneva to begin, and (2) Bordeaux or Nice to Heathrow to end. I would use the excellent train system the rest of the time. Given airport security lines, flying wouldn't really save you that much time, and you'd miss seeing the countryside.

As the previous comment suggests, you can plot out your logistics using a site like Rome2Rio -- or on a good old-fashioned map.

Posted by
10629 posts

Not sure why you are criss-crossing France three times (Geneva-Bordeaux, Bordeaux-Nice, Nice-Paris). How about making a circle: London to Paris via plane or train, Paris to Chamonix, Chamonix to Nice, fly Nice to Bordeaux and fly Bordeaux to London.
Or, less convenient is London fly to Geneva, Geneva to Nice, Nice to Bordeaux, Bordeaux to Paris, Paris to London.

Posted by
28085 posts

To have 2 days somewhere, you need to spend 3 nignts. The math doesn't work. 2 nights means at best 1.5 days of sightseeing time. The Dordogne is a region with a lot of charming villages, some beautiful scenery and caves with prehistoric paintings. It's not a 2-day sort of place--definitely 4 nights or more. Lyon is a large city with much to see; for me it needs at least 3 nights. Then, as you mentioned, you have Nice and Paris. I believe some trimming of the itinerary is in order

Posted by
9436 posts

Yes, this itinerary is too much. What date to you land at Heathrow and what date do you fly home? That will tell us how many full days you have to give better advice.

Posted by
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We fly in 8-21 and depart 9-14. The circle we understand , but still want to make Provence and Burgundy.
Good info on going thru airport security, but in some cases trains take too long.

We have confirmed flight from LHR to Geneva for Chamonix visit and flight from Geneva to Nice after the Alps.
So we have considered too much, so from Nice we are going to train it thru the above Regions back to Paris for about 4 days.

Possible sidetrips time permitting from Paris. We may fly from Bordeaux to London. We would love to Balloon over the Chateaux region if possible. Thanks for your response, and look forward to more.

Posted by
7304 posts

Hi,

Bordeaux/Dordogne is an outlier and is quite time-consuming, so yes, it seems sound to skip it.
To give a detailed itinerary suggestion: when is your flight from Geneva to Nice?
As a rough outline I'd spend 4 nights in Chamonix, 4 around Nice, 4 around Avignon, 2 in Beaune, 6 in Paris.
I don't think you have time to do justice to the Chateaux of the Loire, unless you skip Beaune (I would personally skip Beaune for the Chateaux).