What's with the cost of hotels in Paris?
I haven't been there for a while and, looking now, I'm shocked.
From having been there in 2019 I see hotels that have more than TRIPLED their room costs.
How can this possibly be justified?
What's with the cost of hotels in Paris?
I haven't been there for a while and, looking now, I'm shocked.
From having been there in 2019 I see hotels that have more than TRIPLED their room costs.
How can this possibly be justified?
How can this possibly be justified?
Supply vs demand
It’s possible some event is taking place during the timeframe you’re looking at. A different type of supply and demand issue, but the result is the same.
Have you looked at the cost of hotels in Vancouver over the same time period? Global inflation has hit just about everything. What time period are you looking at for Paris? I hope it's not during fashion week or, (gulp) anywhere around the Olympics.
AND, many don't even clean your room everyday even if you wanted them to. We usually rent apartments and the prices from December 2022 when we were last there and September 2023 when we'll be there next have risen dramatically even according to the manager of the flat we'll be in. He was aghast at the prices that landlords were receiving and the 100% bookings way in advance. People are in travel withdrawal. We've rented the upcoming flat before and it is now twice as much as it was last year. Not only that, but the pickings were slim. The same is true of Lyon which we will be visiting after Paris.
Good luck!
Remember that hotels were closed for most of 2020 and need to make up lost revenue. Another issue is staffing. We have stayed at Hilton branded hotels in the US that do not open all their rooms for booking due to lack of personnel and those rooms that are available are priced higher than pre-covid.
From having been there in 2019 I see hotels that have more than TRIPLED their room costs.
I stayed at a 4 star hotel in Paris in December 2019, and visited again this past May.
And the price was of course higher - there has been inflation, and of course higher demand now than in 2019 - but the total percentage increase in cost for the same room type was right at 40 percent.
Not sure what you are looking at to see TRIPLE, but yes, prices are higher for travel - airfares, hotels, and food - than in 2019. But overall I put the increase from Dec 2019 to May 2023, for all trip components, at around 40 percent.
This is not just in Paris, but all over Europe. and same thing is true on this side of the Atlantic.
If you’re looking at prices for this fall, then the World Rugby Cup is driving up prices. Abs of course it’s the Olympics next summer.
Still cheaper than hotels in San Francisco, Boston, NYC…
Just checked price of the hotel we stayed in pre covid. Currently 75€. From memory we paid 65€ 4 years ago so not a huge increase.
The hotel we stayed in last May (2022) had doubled their price this past May so we stayed elsewhere. It is a hotel in the Saint Germain area which we know is more expensive and popular. Plus the rooms are a big bigger. But €375 to €750 was too much for us.
Tintaldra, What hotel in Paris was €65 in 2019? (and now €75). That’s crazy low so i’m curious.
Susan it was Hotel de l'Europe. Probably not to the standard most on here are after.
Thanks Tintaldra. Hotel de l’Europe by the Moulin Rouge in the 17th arrondissement? It’s on Booking for $106 in Nov 2023 and rated “passable”. You’re right, probably not what most people on this forum would want. I was curious though, always open to knowing about a good, budget hotel.
Hotel Diana is budget and good, in a great location. Same for Hotel Marignan.
hey hey Ron
like others said global inflation. next year is the olympics, don't even think then unless you've got really deep pockets.
please don't look at places in hawaii, any island plus rental cars. thank goodness my family on the big island have a room for me, car to use, and meals cooked. LOL i do cook but picky eaters. i'm the "maid" and they do get rooms cleaned, dishes washed, and clean sheets.
as said supply & demand, lots of people still on revenge travel and i really don't think there is an off season anymore. travel is so so busy all year to many big cities all over europe.
we were in paris and annecy sept/oct 2019. annecy place is about $50 more for 2 bed/1 bath and paris place was in the 14th and not avialable anymore. did not like the 14th since you still pay for transportation and would have rather been nearer to attractions.
seems like many are looking for reasonable/budget friendly in paris and many finding it hard to find, more so for a couple but worse for family with 2 or more kids.
who knows what happens after that and if the economy will be justified and have cheaper places and how many last minute cancellations. hope you find something or go further out or another part of france that is not packed with tourists and enjoy seeing something/someplace different.
aloha
It seems to be a good year or maybe the next couple of years to look for alternatives to London, Paris, and Rome or in RS jargon BOE locations.
There are a couple of threads right now of what's crowded vs what isn't; presuming less demand means lower prices. A good excuse to broaden horizons; or maybe plan a trip with both to take the edge off the cost a little and experiment a little.
Just looked at one of my regular hotels. Their rooms are running low 200€’s for rooms right now but up to some days being 350+€ in mid-Sept.
It’s still cheaper than lodging in Yellowstone where I go for a couple of weeks each summer. In June I paid $229+ change for a cabin (built in the 30’s) with ensuite bath, no AC, poor wifi. The 🐿️ chipmunk which somehow got into the room was no extra charge nor was there a charge for the chipmunk wrangler the front desk sent over to get it out.
Edited to add: just went to look at the same hotel for the Olympics and the prices soar to 460+€ per night.
Yes, prices are way up. But by how much can't be generalized because demand in September, trade show month, will far exceed demand in February. So sometimes 25% while other 400%. How close you book to departure is also a variable.
The drop in number of apartment rentals is also driving the prices.
Restaurant prices have also increased dramatically. My observations, very unofficial of course, are that we are paying 30% or more for meals than we did 2 years ago. A simple way to look at inflation: last year's 1.10€ baguette now costs 1.40€ from the same boulangeries, a 27% increase in little more than a year.
As for hotels, August will be the time for deals this year. After August, there will be the standard September/October price peaks for trade shows, conventions, and this year the Rugby world cup. Effects of next year's Olympics will likely start late fall and preparations continue. Prices are rising, and are likely to continue.
Hey Susan. The Booking.com price for 24th July had l'Europe at $AUD122 down from 136 but I have seen it lower.
It seems to be a good year or maybe the next couple of years to look for alternatives to London, Paris, and Rome or in RS jargon BOE locations.
I am already looking at alternatives outside of Europe, including Asia and the South Pacific for 2024.
Jojo, Im thinking the "....stans" because they are an easy reach from Europe, so I keep Europe in the mix. Eastern Europe + Uzbekistan (and/or Azerbaijan) as both were served by European discount airlines last time I checked.
Jojo, Im thinking the "....stans" because they are an easy reach from Europe, so I keep Europe in the mix. Eastern Europe + Uzbekistan (and/or Azerbaijan) as both were served by European discount airlines last time I checked.
That is a good idea, something to consider.
For the last decade+ (which includes a 3 year covid "international travel hole" for us), Europe, particularly the western reaches of Europe and the UK, has been our default destination. I always dredge up the "what about" Asia conversation, and never get the solid green light from my wife on anything but Europe, and I have been OK with that choice of Europe. What is different for 2024 for me is that she is encouraging me to go solo to Asia, or maybe go with a friend - she has zero interest in Europe (France) in mid 2024 given the Olympics and also how overcrowded Paris was in May on our recent trip, figuring next late spring / summer will be even worse - and she is also not interested in the more exotic destinations of Eastern Europe.
Anyway, fun to consider my options. Not getting any younger...
Mister E, agreed. For our tentative plans next year, we are going to Rotterdam (interested in the architecture) instead of Amsterdam, Richmond instead of London, and Turin + Naples instead of Rome, Venice or Florence. All less expensive with great transit to explore.
PM me dates and I don't mind looking to see if anything special is going on in town.
I am on the RS Berlin, Prague and Vienna tour In September 2024. I will be flying into Paris for 2 days before continuing on to Berlin. I have booked a fully refundable room at the Hotel Christophe for 420 Euros. I gulped at the price, especially because I deal in Canadian funds. I tried to book many of the hotels recommended on this forum, but they were already sold out…14 months out!, or above my pay grade.
The price reflects a great location in the Latin Quarter. I will be saving money on transportation, because I intend on being a “Flaneur” for the 2 days. Walking where my feet take me, and peeking around corners to find my next adventure. I’m not buying advanced tickets to anywhere, so no timelines to abide by. I’ll be busy enough on the tour, but will start the tour as relaxed as a puddle.
I stayed in an apartment in Annecy and recommended it to someone on line -- perhaps here -- We paid about 160 a night; when they went to book, it was 1000 a night. I just checked now and it is back down to 337 a night.
The apartment we stay in in the fall which was already expensive is now 25 more per month for this fall; I'll be looking elsewhere after this fall's stay.
When planning for my fall France trip I was gobsmacked at the price increases since my last trip. Last year traveling in England in the fall I did not find as much as an increase. I expected some increases (Covid & inflation), but one example is a tiny single room near Rue de Rivoli in the Marais which had increased 4 times since I last stayed there. I did find a room in the Latin Quarter which was only double what I usually pay, so finger's crossed it is ok. Since the Olympics will be in France next year I won't even attempt a trip there in 2024.
"I tried to book many of the hotels recommended on this forum, but they were already sold out…14 months out!,"
@Susie: Honestly for a hotel in Paris not during the Olympics, they may not have their rooms loaded into the website that far in advance. I did look at two of my regulars and hotel rates for early Sept were still high, dropping 70E by the middle of the month for one and was the same early and mid Sept for the other. ( Sept 4 - 346E, Sept 18- 276E at Hotel Muguet or Sept 4 or Sept 18 - 234E at Beaugency) Of course you may not like my choice of neighborhood or amenities as we all travel differently.
“Since the Olympics will be in France next year I won't even attempt a trip there in 2024.”
No need to avoid all of France for all of 2024, the Olympics are in/near Paris and only for a few weeks.
I agree with everyone… yesterday i was looking for a hotel in Paris for a friend for this Oct and was shocked by the prices. 😳
Hopefully, you don't rent your US home-renters have seen some eye-popping increases.
Pam,
Thanks for the tip.. I wanted to lock in a good hotel. I used booking.com and have free cancellation. If I find something else in the next 6-8 months that is cheaper, I can always cancel and rebook elsewhere. Just knowing I have a place is a big relief for me. I will certainly look at your favourites.
I recently read that Paris is the number one tourism destination in the world right now. That's not likely to result in many hotel bargains. Last month I stayed at the Holiday Inn Paris Gare de l'Est for about 160 Euros per night. The immediate area wasn't charming, but I felt safe, and the metro was right outside the front door. I'd recommend it to anyone who doesn't care too much about location.
cala, Rents have gone down this year in SF and the SF Bay Area…
Here are the correct dates for the Olympic and Paralympic Games in 2024. Remember that there will be several sites across France — sailing competitions will take place in Marseille, for example . . .
Roughly, July 24 through Sept 8.
Then the Paralympic Games start
Most events will indeed be in Paris and the surrounding area, but football matches will also be played in
Sailing competitions will take place in Marseille, and surfing will take place in . . . Tahiti!
I must travel on a different budget stratosphere to most on here.
I did a quick google search price check on the hotels we stayed in on our past French trip.
Here are the prices in Euros.
76, 89, 83, 36, 108, 130, 55, 59, 62, 72, 55, 50, 78, 76. A few have gone up a fair bit most have only risen in line with inflation.
So accommodation costs certainly wouldn't prevent me from returning to France.
One of my favourites.
Tintaldra, the op was asking about Paris. Other parts of France are usually much less than Paris prices.
Susan the hotel where I stayed in Paris (l'Europe) is currently listed as available for 2 people at $AUD124 ($USD84) for tomorrow night. Certainly not tripled in price since 2019.
I stayed overnight last week while visiting mum in hospital for $AUD125 in a bare bones budget motel in outer suburban Melbourne.
The "passable" rated l'Europe was much better value.
Parisian hotel prices seem ok at the lower end of the market, certainly things have gone up with inflation but so have my wages (indexed to cost of living) and so have my property values ( actually up 70%, regional property boomed post covid here in Oz). It might be the higher end of the market where big price increases have occurred.
We're looking to visit Paris towards the end of September. are there any budget friendly hotels/BnBs just outside the city with convenient transportation into the city?
Thanks,
Karl
hey hey karl
best to start your own post. don't latch to someone's older post
give more info, how many people, mobility issues, dates, budget in euros.
budget friendly doesn't mean much anywhere nowdays. including paris.
plus sept/oct are crazy, busy, crowded
aloha
If you're looking at Paris hotels this Sept. and October, it's the Rugby World Cup. In October 2023, most games will take place north of Paris. My favorite Paris hotel tripled their rates from last year.
Most likely a major event. We originally planned a trip to Paris around Sept 1 and the hotel rates were reasonable (by Paris standards). We thought of rebooking to one week later, and just like you saw, the rates skyrocketed. Turns out it's because it's Fashion Week in Paris, one of its highest demand travel times, so we kept to our original plans.
And the Rugby World Cup, as noted above, which literally starts Sept 8.
Regarding the Olympics , remember that athletes and support crew come in a few weeks early to adjust to the time changes and temperature, and often use practice venues hours away from where the games are actually held. When I was on the central coast of CA for the 1984 LA Games, we had Olympic athletes up in San Luis Obispo area working out and practicing, which is 2+ hours away from LA. One of my fondest memories is that after our pre- school swim class ended at a local community college pool, all the little girls were imitating the pool deck practice of the USA women's synchronized swim team. The girls were fascinated watching the women swim and stay under water so long.
So my point- many areas in France could be impacted by the upcoming Olympics , many weeks before the actual games.
"Shocked" So very true.
Prices were high to super high in May and June. My three week stay in Paris this time in June/July saw the hotels full or posting pretty high prices relative to pre-pandemic years. I was last in Paris in 2018, yes, a 5 years absence, long time. Then the the single was ca. 85- 90 Euro.
For six of the days this time, the guy at the hotel let me have nice en suite room for 100 Euro a night provided the first 300 Euro (the first 3 nights) to be paid immediately in cash, the rest later by card, if I wanted that, which I did. Obviously, I agree, a great deal relative to the high price charged at the previous hotel for basically the same type of room for a single. Still it cleaned out my 50 Euro bills I had on me....it pays to carry cash. I didn't bring enough.
This is in the Gare du Nord area where I always stay.
Pat that is a very interesting point !!! Good to keep in mind, and it makes sense.
Also,keep in mind that media folks (especially the ones setting everything up) will be there early too. Although maybe not coming so early to adjust for time changes or in a different part of the country, but just in Paris or Marseille or the cities where football matches will be held
Ibis Paris CDG - 101/night
Ibis Paris Gare de Lyon - 105
There are certainly less expensive hotels
I was impressed by the Ibis across from Berlin Hbf since I decided to stay in this area this time; luckily with the events going on in Berlin in early June I managed to get a room at a decent price. First time staying in an Ibis.
I have the Ibis near Gare du Nord in mind for next time, checked out the place, very nice, affordable. The time of year also dictates the price.
We have stayed in Ibis in Budapest, near Rennes (Fr), and in Milan. They are moderate in price (Milan was more expensive, but that is a big city). The breakfast is generally good, although the Ibis in Fr was not particularly good for breakfast. We do not go to Europe to sit in a luxury hotel. We sleep there, and get up and leave. We do not want a luxury room with a fluffy robe or a pool which we will not use.
Maybe my expections where different but the Hotel Yllen Eiffel wanted €150/night for a single room w/breakfast the last weekend of August and I thought that was decent enough. Now mind you I reserved almost two months ago but while higher than what I paid a decade ago on my last trip I thought that was not too bad. Certainly hotel prices haven't gone up as fast as Seattle grocery prices have!
“Maybe my expections where different”… different from what? I think you did well, that’s a decent price for Paris (if it’s not a flea-bag, lol).
It's definitely time to look outside of the "biggies" like Paris, Rome and London! We were just in Paris in April and our fav hotel was about %30 more than when we last booked (and canceled) in 21. But one down the street, that I had firm numbers on from 21 had more than doubled in price! So it does vary by hotel.
However, we visited the Loire valley and had such a fabulous stay in Amboise. Bigger, better room and an amazing breakfast. Zero crowds everywhere we went! We're def going to be headed to smaller cities/regions for our next trip!
Still, I can get nicer rooms for less in Europe than the U. S. I am no longer astonished by the prices in the U.S. 200+ for a mediocre Best Western in Seattle! I’ve paid more or hotels in small towns in Iowa than I have in Paris. If you want a modestly priced hotel in Paris, look at Hotel Familia in the 7th
My trick is to look at Google Maps for the outer ranges of the Metro stops, then ask the map to show hotels. As long as the area is nice, I don't care if it's further out as long as it's near a transport stop. I'll sacrifice a few more minutes in the train to get the lower prices.