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old t and t+ tickets in Paris

I'm pretty sure that I remember that old t and t+ tickets are always valid. Is that still true? Can I just use them in the turnstiles or on buses or do they need to be exchanged, or are they bin-fodder?

The t+ ones look modern and are white, the t ones are the same size but purple.

BTW- what is the "+" for in t+? Can you go further than the old t?

I have a half dozen of each so it would be a waste to just bin them....

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2546 posts

The ticket t or t+ never expires. Your tickets are good until used. It is possible that the tickets may become demagnetized in which case they can be exchanged for new ones.

Posted by
4684 posts

They've changed things in recent years, the tickets now expire after twelve months. I was disappointed last year when tickets that were a couple of years old were no longer valid.

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9420 posts

Nigel, I just turned in tickets that were 16 mos old and got new ones (8). They had become de-magnitized. Woman at ticket counter said don’t keep them near coins or credit cards. See you soon.

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2546 posts

They've changed things in recent years, the tickets now expire after twelve months.

Do you have any evidence or a reference supporting such an assumption? Tickets T+ have no expiration date as explained by the RATP:

Les billets et les tickets en carnet ou à l'unité n'ont pas de date de péremption et sont d'ailleurs délivrés sans indication de période de validité. Ils pourront donc être utilisés ultérieurement.

https://www.ratp.fr/node/2046

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32805 posts

Thanks everyone. I think I will find a nice person at the Gare du Nord as I arrive who will set me right, and I will report back.

I knew I had my t+ tickets but I was surprised to see that I still had some purple t ones. We'll see. I still don't understand what the new "+" ones give you that the old "not +" don't. Maybe I have to speak in Francs and Centimes....

I will report back after the weekend....

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2546 posts

I honestly do not know what meaning the + has on the T+ vs what it may have meant on a T (no +). The + has been there for many years and while most prices rise every year, the rules of usage have remained basically unchanged for a long, long time.

In 2019, all ticketing will be shifted to smartphones or the Navigo card. Paper tickets, to which we have become accustomed, will be gone, at least as of today.

Posted by
8063 posts

I used tickets that were two years old just this past month; they don't expire. And as others note if they don't work they will be replaced by the info clerk.

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4684 posts

I had several two-year-old T+ tickets that would not open the gates - I initially thought they had been demagnetised, gave them to a ticket office worker (in uniform, behind the ticket window) and was told that they were too old to be valid and that they now expired after one year. I will be upset if a RATP employee lied to me because they were too lazy to do their job...

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776 posts

Tocard:

Interesting point you bring up. I don't have a smart phone and have no desire to switch from my perfectly serviceable dumb phone. I don't use public transportation enough to make a Navigo cost effective. What ticketing options will be available to me after this change goes into effect? I have read about this change but could find no information for those of us in this situation (surely I'm not alone) and hope you can provide an answer.

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2546 posts

I will be upset if a RATP employee lied to me because they were too lazy to do their job...

Philip - Difficult to explain why someone told you that the ticket T+ had an expiration date. Could be as simple as a new employee who didn´t really know but all of the RATP employees with whom I have dealt have been very professional and extremely polite.

What ticketing options will be available to me after this change goes into effect?

What I remember is that those without a phone, and you are not alone in not having a smart phone, would need to purchase a Navigo Découverte card and single ride tickets could be loaded onto it.

Rarely is anything cast in stone with the RATP.