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Normandy by car

We plan to take a Eurostar London to Gare du Nord; arriving Paris at 10:29am on 9/9. I would like to train to Rouen directly, and then pick up a rental car in Rouen. It seems one has to cab to St. Lazare station to pick up a train to Rouen. Is this the only option ? Then there are plenty of SCNF trains to Rouen. So the question is: is it easy to grab a cab to St . Lazare, is it walkable ? How much time is needed from arrival time to departure to Rouen. I have read its best to get out of Paris to rent the car, vs. driving out from Gare du Nord. We then move on to Normandy, Bayeux, Mont St. Michel. Then back to Paris and need to drop the car. Is it best to drop the car outside and train back in, or just drop somewhere, our hotel is in St. Germain, Hotel Jardin du Cluny, maybe nowhere near a drop off point on 9/15. Any thoughts on best rental car companies ? We recently used My Irish Cousin rental service in Ireland and it was a great experience. I appreciate any insight on all the above. Cheers!

Posted by
1914 posts

If Mont St Michel and surrounding area is your last stop in the region; I'd suggest returning the car at Rennes train station and take the train back to Paris from there. You'll arrive at Montparnasse station in Paris and it is a quick 10 minute taxi ride to your hotel.

Posted by
9519 posts

Stick with the major brands-Hertz, Europcar, Avis, Sixt
See what AutoEurope.com offers
All drivers will need an IDP-required by law
Get at your local AAA before leaving home

ETA- Drivers with a US license are required by law to have an IDP.

Posted by
451 posts

All drivers will need an IDP-required by law

Really?
Absolutely not! Driving licences issued in the UK, the EU and EEA countries are accepted (no IDP required)

Posted by
3392 posts

KD's suggestion to return the car in Rennes is a wise one. Also, picking up the car in Rouen (after spending the night in Rouen, I hope) is also a good idea.

Alas, I don't know how easy or quick it is to go from Gare du Nord to Gare St. Lazare, and I see no one has answered that question for you. Checking here on the forum with a search I found that posters say it is about a 2.5 km walk (35-40 minutes), or bus #26 between the stations, or a taxi is possible. I personally would take a taxi if I had bags, but I am old and slow. I also think the sidewalks could be slow traveling, if there are lots of people.
Re the IDP, if you are from the US it is required. Canada, if your license is both French and English (as in Quebec) it is not required. The UK and EU have separate agreements with France.
We always research car rentals at Autoeurope.com. They will have info and rates on several car rental companies. You can reserve through them or directly with the company you decide on. Sometimes Autoeurope is cheaper, sometimes the company itself. We have rented from various companies over the years and have had good luck with all of them. (I don't recall using Hertz.)
Be aware that September is about the most expensive month for Paris, but the tourist crowds will be smaller than in July and August. There will be lots of conventioneers, however.
Have a wonderful trip!

Posted by
7956 posts

Nord to Saint Lazare is just one stop on the RER E train (from Magenta to Haussmann-Saint Lazare): if you have manageable luggage it would have my preference, as Paris buses can be quite slow and unreliable these days.

Tickets can be arranged on smartphones, or bought at the Eurostar onboard bar.

Posted by
561 posts

We're doing a very similar trip in October, except we arrive at CDG from Australia.

We were going to taxi to St. Lazare, then train to Rouen, then taxi to our hotel, but have now changed that to having a private driver take us from CDG directly to Rouen. We figure we'll be exhaused after 24 hours in awful economy, and therefore prone to confusion and pickpockets.

We normally always use public transport in France, but not just after arrival on a long flight.

We are then picking up a hire car from Sixt after three nights in Rouen and will keep that for our eleven night Normandy trip. We are returning the car to Caen after MSM, and then training to Paris, and will spend another couple of weeks using trains in France.

Since you go a month before us, I hope you write a trip report, I'll keep a watch for it.

Have a great trip.

Posted by
1616 posts

Just to add on that Rennes is a great location for pick up or drop off for Western Normandy—especially Mont Saint-Michel. I have done both there. Unlike Rouen, there is a TGV from Rennes to Paris. Also, if it were me, I would either take a taxi between train stations in Paris if I have luggage, or walk/bus if i have no or minimal luggage. Personally, I find those modes are far preferable to the Metro. You actually get to see the city rather than tunneling underground (this may be less important for someone who lives in Paris and sees it everyday). I haven't found the buses unreliable in Paris at all, although they can be slower depending on time of day and traffic. But often, they are right outside of the station with no stairs, escalators, etc.

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1508 posts

Really?
Absolutely not! Driving licences issued in the UK, the EU and EEA countries are accepted (no IDP required)

I know. People harp on about this incessantly (and usually incorrectly). Its like they get a commission from the IDP people, or something.

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1508 posts

Canada, if your license is both French and English (as in Quebec) it is not required.

Actually Quebec drivers licenses are ONLY in French (and yet, miraculously, they manage to drive all through English speaking countries without requiring an IDP). New Brunswick, Ontario, Manitoba, Nova Scotia, PEI and Newfoundland all have bilingual licenses.

Posted by
1616 posts

...its like they get a commission from the IDP people, or something.

Touché!

Posted by
37 posts

We did something like this last year. I looked into renting a car in Paris and decided to avoid all the hassle and annoyance and potential issues driving around Paris.

We took the train from Paris to Caen, rented the car in Caen, spent a few days in Normandy, returned the car to Caen, and took the train back to Paris.

You're on vacation. Avoid the Paris traffic and ride the comfortable French trains.

Posted by
25 posts

Thank you all so much ! Such good info. We have carry on bags, but will prob taxi to St. Lazare. I will search the car companies mentioned, should be no problem. Already obtained the IDP online; hope we never need it!.

On the way back from MSM; is it too out of the way to drive to Chartres? But then we are almost all the way back .. so then where would be a place to drop the car?

Posted by
9519 posts

Really? Absolutely not! Driving licences issued in the UK, the EU and
EEA countries are accepted (no IDP required)

I know. People harp on about this incessantly (and usually
incorrectly). Its like they get a commission from the IDP people, or
something.

Oh dear I sincerely apologize to all I have offended
I assumed the OP was driving on a US license
I have edited my post with the clarification

I don’t understand how others are so sure that OP is not a US citizen with a US driver’s license?
Are only UK/EU citizens allowed to travel on Eurostar?

I do try to provide accurate information to this forum and always mention the IDP- assuming it is a US driver- I have seen travelers turned away at the car rental desk because they do not have it. Would hate for that to happen to anyone.

I see the OP has returned to let us know that they do have an IDP so now I must assume that OP is indeed a US driver.

Posted by
1508 posts

You said "all" drivers need an IDP. The other poster and I were simply correcting your misinformation.

Perhaps better not to assume everyone is an American. Isn't that the Rick Steves way?

Posted by
36965 posts

not only US drivers need an IDP or authorized translation from a panel of approved translators. Residents in most countries of the world - barring NB - do. A few don't.

Posted by
7466 posts

I assumed the OP was driving on a US license

You assumed incorrecty. It seems to be a default assumption by American posters that unless a poster otherwise lists their home country under their user name, then they must be American. . However it has been amply demonstrated on these forums that there are many posters, some of them frequent posters, who come from all over the world. Perhaps it's time to make all posters locations mandatory instead of optional.

Posted by
9519 posts

You said "all" drivers need an IDP.

I meant "all drivers in your party" as the post was directed only to the OP. Next time I will try to make that clearer.

You assumed incorrecty.

Actually no I don't think I did- as the OP has posted above:

Already obtained the IDP online

Could that mean OP is from somewhere else in the world that requires an IDP? I suppose it could.
Didn't those that were so offended by my post all assume that the poster was NOT American?

not only US drivers need an IDP or authorized translation from a panel
of approved translators. Residents in most countries of the world -
barring NB - do.

Thank you Nigel

Anyway I agree that it would be nice if all members included their location. That would avoid so much distress.

Posted by
25 posts

I am from NY, I should have clarified the US license. I prefer no potential problem at the rental desk, and my French is rusty at best ! Any thoughts on the drive back to go thru Chartres.. vs. train back from Rennes ?
Thx

Posted by
7956 posts

It's about 4 hours to Chartres via Alençon, a bit less (but much more boring) if you take the highway via Le Mans. You'd get a half-day in Chartres, unless you stay the night. Feasible, but possibly rushed!

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We recently trained from Basel to Caen and also had to switch train stations in Paris, and also on our subsequent Caen to Amsterdam leg, both to/from St. Lazare to Gare du Nord. We received so much mixed advice on how to navigate them but discovered that the subway connection was very easy to navigate. We didn't even need a ticket (in addition to our Eurail global passes). It was very crowded, at least one way, but took maybe ten minutes (with frequent trains). We speak no French but following signs wasn't difficult. A half an hour was sufficient but, warning, the heat wave had created big delays for us both to and from France, making both travel days pretty challenging. We also rented a car in Caen. We went through booking.com and the SIXT rental office was right outside the Caen train station. We didn't need (or even know of) the IDP issue; our US licenses were fully acceptable. We did get (probably by mistake) both the booking.com and SIXT additional insurance and were glad we did, because our car had a scratch after our first stop at the American Normandy cemetery, and we hadn't checked it thoroughly beforehand (no was NO attendant when picking the car up at the lot a short walk away). In any case, however the scratch originated, we didn't have to pay anything extra. Fwiw, we stayed in Caen one night, then continued via taxi to Ouistreham, then took a very convenient bus back to Caen when we decided to get a rental car. From there we drove to Colleville-sur-Mer, Arromanches-les-Bain, and Lisieux, and back to Caen over two days. Memorable, and the car provided great relief from the heat! Enjoy Normandy, we surely did.

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3266 posts

This is what the French government says about IDP requirements:

Vous pouvez conduire avec votre permis étranger non européen pendant un court séjour en France. Par exemple, pendant des vacances en France.

Votre permis de conduire étranger délivré par un pays non européen (UE/EEE) doit remplir les conditions suivantes :

Être en cours de validité

Respecter les prescriptions médicales notées sur votre permis.

Être rédigé en français, ou être accompagné d'un permis de conduire international (sauf pour le permis britannique), ou d'une traduction officielle . La traduction doit être légalisée ou apostillée si elle est faite à l'étranger. Si la traduction est réalisée en France, elle doit être faite par un traducteur habilité ou par l'ambassade en France du pays qui a délivré le permis.

https://www.service-public.gouv.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F1459

Effectively, you need an IDP (or an official translation) if your license is not issued in the EU (or UK) or unless it is written in French.

These rules are setup by international treaty. IDPs issued on US licenses are only valid for one year.

How this affects someone driving without one? I have not a clue, but I am going to guess that the risk of incarceration is minimal.

Posted by
634 posts

This thread is interesting.

People are being admonished for assuming those posting comments, who don't clarify their location, are from the U.S.

It's a U.S. company that hosts this website.

Its namesake is a well-known American travel guide (in certain circles).

Its customers, as I understand them, are overwhelmingly from the U.S.

In short, it seems to be a perfectly reasonable assumption to conclude that someone posting , who does not clarify their location, is from the U.S.

If one wants to post from another nation, by all means your input is welcome; especially if it aides users of this website learn more about your nation or locality. That would seem consistent with the overarching mission of the website.

But to get bent out of shape because, given the points listed above, that the default assumption is that those posting, without clarifying their provenance, are from the U.S., well, that seems a bit odd to me.

Posted by
7466 posts

If one wants to post from another nation, by all means your input is welcome; especially if it aides users of this website learn more about your nation or locality. That would seem consistent with the overarching mission of the website.
But to get bent out of shape because, given the points listed above, that the default assumption is that those posting, without clarifying their provenance, are from the U.S., well, that seems a bit odd to me.

How magnanimous of you to allow postings by those from other nations. We are duly flattered to be permitted in.

I saw no one who seemed "bent out of shape". However accuracy is actually a thing. And when speaking about required documentation, it is vital. The original statement that all drivers require an IDP is simply incorrect. Full stop. Just as the statement that everyone needs an ETA to enter the UK is incorrect.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but one of the tenets of this forum is to give accurate information to the best of each poster's knowledge, and to minimize just making assumptions.

Posted by
9519 posts

Good grief.
I apologized above for upsetting so many here. As I explained my post was to the OP under the (correct) assumption that OP and his party were driving with a US license.
Those that were offended assumed (incorrectly) that the OP was not an American.
OP has indicated he is from NY and driving with a US license- therefore my post to him is correct.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but one of the tenets of this forum is to
give accurate information to the best of each poster's knowledge, and
to minimize just making assumptions.

Whew! Good thing my assumption was correct.

I find it humorous- I have posted “All drivers are required by law to have an IDP” probably dozens of times and not one person has been so offended until this time.
Nigel and Tocard have both shared that it is not just American drivers that need an IDP.

To the OP- sorry your innocent question turned into such a ridiculous discussion.

Thank you Bob.

Posted by
25 posts

Thx so much, Beth from NY here. ( I am a rookie on this forum!) I appreciate the info and I will ( as I am working on this right now ) follow advice : train from St Lazare to Rouen, car rental as advised (then to Deauville, Bayeux, Normandy Beaches, then MSM). Will drop the car in Rennes and take the train back to Paris from Rennes. Then 3 days in Paris. Trip is short, arrival 9/6 in London and then dep CDG on 9/19. It's killing me that the Bayeux tapestry arrived in London yesterday, but not viewable at the British Museum until 9/10, we are on Eurostar 9/9.. oh well .. can't see and do everything. Thx again !