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loire valley and burgundy

Narrowing down our trip thanks so much for everyones help so far. Arriving in Paris on a Wed morning in Sept, thinking 3 days in Paris then 3 days to explore Loire valley and Burgundy region for some wine tasting and visiting the abbey. Are the wineries open on Sundays? Any amount of time recommended at either location? Need to fly back Tuesday afternoon - can we take train directly from this region to the Charles de Gaulle Airport? Thanks for any information!

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Three days is not a lot of time to “explore” two regions. Which abbey are you planning to visit? Some wineries are open on Sunday and some are not, but you don’t usually just pop into a winery in Burgundy. You will usually need to have scheduled that ahead of time. I recommend an organized day, wine tour for such a short trip. It is possible to take a train to CDG from either region. The question is, based on the time of your departure flight and the train schedule, will you reasonably be able to do that?

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I agree that 3 days is not enough time to do what you're describing here. If you are determined to see both the Loire Valley and Burgundy region, then you need to reduce your time in Paris to just 1 day. That would give you 3 days in the Loire and 2 in Burgundy, or the other way around. That's still only enough to scratch the surface, but it is more reasonable.

Taking a train back to Paris on the day of departure would be a gamble. Most likely everything would go smoothly, but you have no control if it doesn't. I'd recommend returning to Paris the night before your flight.

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Time is one of your most valuable commodities while on vacation. As previously noted 3 days to see the Loire Valley and Burgundy is not enough time.

One thing that is easy to omit while planning is transportation time. The suggested route by train would be (approximately) 2 hours Paris to say Tours in the Loire Valley, 5 hours from Tours to Beaune, and 3 hours from Beaune to CDG. So in your 3 days 10 hours is on the train. If you must leave Paris I would suggest one of the two regions. You could easily spend all your time in Paris but I understand the allure of the two areas you have noted. You will just have to come back! Also, I second the comment that traveling back to Paris the night before is a good idea.

Now your other questions: Burgundy is a whole region I would begin with checking the tourism website of the town you wish to visit for research on when wineries are open, such as this for Beaune
https://www.beaune-tourism.com/ Yes, trains are available back to CDG as it has it's own train station.

Let us know what you decided and I hope you have a great trip!

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Ok thanks. I was thinking of taking the train from Paris to Tours then renting a car from there. On maps it looks more doable. I will research more thanks

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Taking the train to Tours, specifically Saint-Pierre-des-Corps, is quite easy and there are car rental places near the station -- I just did it this past August. But even with that, let's say you take the first train of the day and arrived in Saint-Pierre-des-Corps around 7 AM, you would have the rest of that a day to "explore" the Loire Valley. I don't see how that is enough time. Assuming that like most people you need sleep, you would spend that first night in the Loire Valley and then head out first thing the next morning. Depending on where in Bourgogne you want to go, you are looking at a minimum of 3 hours of driving time and that will be on a Sunday when a lot of places are closed in the countryside or if they are open, they close early. Then unless your flight leaves very late on Tuesday, you should probably head back to Paris late on Monday. I am just not seeing how this is going to work out. I suggest you drop one of the regions and do 3 days in Paris and 3 days in whichever of the two regions is your preference. Unless you can teleport and do not need to sleep and places will stay open late just for you, you do not have enough time on this trip for Paris plus two regions of France.

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All these people are right, three days isn't nearly enough time for both regions. So pick one, train to either St-Pierre (Tours) or Dijon (quick connection to Beaune). And hopefully you'll be returning later for more of Paris, the other region, and more time in France altogether.

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I definitely agree that 3 days is not enough for Loire and Burgundy. Tours would be a good place to get a car, and a good location to visit wineries. Among many other appellations, there is Vouvray and Montlouis to the east for whites, and Bourgueil and Chinon to the west for reds' plus a lot of wineries making Touraine-appellation wines. Most, but not all, wineries are closed on Sundays, but unlike Burgundy, you almost never need an appointment to visit and taste wines at a winery in the Loire. Both Loire and Burgundy have great non-wine attractions. While the Loire has the most well-known chateaux, Burgundy gives them a run for their money in that regard.Loire chateaux are mostly "pleasure palaces," while Burgundy is more about fortifications.

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I think three days works for Loire but I'd want a week, preferably more, to enjoy Burgundy.

In Loire in three days, you can see five chateau (which is all you should see in one trip), eat some decent food and find some wine tasting.

I don't think any wines match Burgundy. I'm not a fan of Beaune. I like Dijon. The real heart of Burgundy, however, is wandering through the medieval towns and countryside, soak up the atmosphere, eat good food and drink the best wine in the world. While you're there, there are also some really outstanding sights too.

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The Fontenay Abbey is a marvel, worth including on your itinerary. Not far from Semur and Flavigney, which have great charm. But spend as little time in Montbard as possible.