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Itinerary help please

Flying in and out of CDG; have to stick with that since booked with miles and I was lucky to get business class.

We'd like to spend some time in the St. Remy area and the Dordogne/Sarlat area, renting a car to get around there.

On previous trips, we've trained from Paris to Avignon then rented a car. The closest we've been to the Dordogne area is Bordeaux and rented a car there when going to the Pyrenees.

I don't mind driving from point A to point B if it's under 3 hours. And one-way rental with car is acceptable if necessary. But going between Sarlat and St. Remy seems a bit challenging - over 5 hours to drive and no direct train. So maybe combining those two areas on this trip may not be such a good idea.

Any helpful insight is greatly appreciated. Trip is April 2026

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So you wish to spend time in Sarlat/Dordogne and also St Remy but nowhere in between? And nowhere else on trip?

Since you’re seeming to consider dropping one- what is it you want to do or hope to see? How short is the trip?

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That's correct. We'd just do some outings in those areas, in addition to our time in Paris at the beginning and end of the trip.

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How much time do you have? I agree it's a long way unless you have time to meander and possibly add a few days in between; not that I know what is in between. I do highly recommend the Dordogne region though. We spent a week there in October 2024 and loved it. We based in Beynac. Here's my Trip Report if you're interested. https://community.ricksteves.com/travel-forum/trip-reports/trip-report-part-2-hills-and-castles-dordogne

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Driving from Saint-Rémy-de-Provence to Sarlat actually takes at least 6.5 hours on an optimistic estimate if you take in account a minimum amount of break time. Even via the highways, there can also be areas with traffic slowdowns depending on the time of day you pass through them, such as the Toulouse ring road and the A61 / A20 after passing Toulouse (I sat there for over 30 minutes last Sunday because of a serious accident between two trucks). That said, it is entirely doable, you just shouldn't expect to make it in the time indicated by Google Maps and need to account for unexpected delays.

If that feels like too much driving time, you can also break the trip in two and spend a night halfway.

Between the Montpellier region and the Dordogne, I take the A75 which passes through the Millau Viaduct and Rodez. That can also be an alternative route, with fewer highways but more picturesque scenery.

Finally, I keep repeating that the Dordogne valley extends east of Sarlat all the way into central France. The Lot department and the Quercy region have the exact same appeal as Sarlat and its surroundings, caves, castles, villages (even more so, except Rick Steves hasn't been there). So, driving the last 100 kilometers just to reach Sarlat isn't necessarily usefuln you can just as well reach the Dordogne river further east, which will cut your trip short by a good hour. If you want to visit Sarlat later on, nothing stops you from doing so.

Here are a few examples further east in the Dordogne valley:

Carennac

https://www.visit-dordogne-valley.co.uk/discover/cultural-heritage/villages-to-visit/carennac

Autoire

https://www.visit-dordogne-valley.co.uk/discover/cultural-heritage/villages-to-visit/autoire

Collonges-la-Rouge

https://www.visit-dordogne-valley.co.uk/discover/cultural-heritage/villages-to-visit/collonges-la-rouge

Martel

https://www.visit-dordogne-valley.co.uk/discover/cultural-heritage/villages-to-visit/martel

You will find them on this map among many other possibilities:

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1OdPOg8AgsNn0Jlv1cNHkujaWv9p_Jpc&usp=sharing

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We combined Provence and the Dordogne on a previous driving trip. We stopped en-route for two nights at Carcassonne. Carcassonne is very crowded mid-day, but in the evening / early morning it is magical. The first day we took a mid-day break in the Carmargue area to see ponies/ flamingos. The second day we took a mid-day break at St. Cirq Lapopie. Pech Merle prehistoric cave is also in that area. You would only need one night in Carcassonne, unless you want to also see some of the other villages/ castles in that area.

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Many thanks for the most helpful information thus far. We have 15 days, not counting arrival and departure days at CDG. Hubs doesn't like to do only a night or two in a given location. With several nights in Paris at the start and end, maybe we'll just spend the rest of the time between a couple of locations in the Dordogne area. Much to ponder...

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However you decide to get to it, give yourself at least 4-7 days in the Dordogne (Perigord) region. And I concur that, although a lovely town, Sarlat is not the be-all and end-all of the area. We rented a place near La Roque Gageac for 10 nights in 2023 for our family of seven and filled every day, but had a relaxed time as well. We unfortunately didn't get to the eastern section of the Perigord this time (we have been there in the far past), so you have a wide range of locations to choose from. The Perigord comprises about 3500 square miles, so lots of choices to make (all good ones).
We drove from Bordeaux, where we rented a car, and took about 3 1/2 hours to get to our gite, using the D roads, but stopped for lunch along the way. We returned to Bordeaux to drop the car and took a TGV (2 hours) to Paris, staying 2 nights in Bordeaux at that time. (We had never been, so planned on this stop.)
We have also stayed in a few different places in Provence (including the Luberon part), and St. Remy or Arles are the home bases we liked best. We have never driven from that area straight to the Dordogne region so can't advise on that route. However, if you want shorter drives, find a place to stop for the night en route from St. Remy (or wherever) to your home base in the Dordogne region. Hubby can probably do this one nighter one time to shorten the drives.
Also, looking at your 15 days, how does this breakdown re itinerary sound? (Adding 2 days for arrival and departure per your explanation)
Day 1 Arrive Sleep Paris
Day 2, Take train to Avignon (just under 3 hours), rent car, drive to St. Remy de Provence (under 1 hour)
Sleep St. Remy four nights and explore area
Day 6 Drive to wherever you decide on in the Perigord in one day or stop overnight somewhere
along the way Sleep in Dordogne or interim town
Day 7 Dordogne exploration Sleep Dordogne 5 nights
Day 12 Drive to Bordeaux (3 to 3 1/2 hours, return car at train station and take TGV to Paris (Gare Montparnasse)
2 hours) In Paris mid to late afternoon, enjoy Paris, sleep Paris 5 nights
Day 17 Depart (or day 16 if I have figured incorrectly).

This gives you 3 full days based in St. Remy and 4 full days based in the Dordogne for sure. Also, 4 full days in Paris if you leave day 17. You also have, depending on when you leave a place, a half day at your arrival when you get there (St. Remy on day 2 and Dordogne on day 7, if a stopover on day 6, and Paris on day 12.) You can deduct days from Paris and add to Provence or the Perigord if you wish.
This is just a rough start at breaking down your itinerary....some ideas to build on, add to, subtract from, or just scrap. Hope it helps a bit.

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If you skip Provence, take a TGV to Bordeaux, spend a 2-3 nights there if it appeals. Rent your car when you are leaving for the Perigord. Take 6-7 full days there. You won't be bored. Retrace your steps to Bordeaux and TGV to Paris.

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Many thanks, Judy. That's an appealing itinerary. I'll obviously have to "sell" the longer trip between the two areas but that looks like a good option for us.

We've spent time in Bordeaux in the past so I won't need to devote any time to the city. We've spent time in parts of Provence in past trips so it is also an option to leave off the St. Remy part of the trip in favor of more time around the Dordogne area. Perhaps train from Paris to Bordeaux, pick up car, off we go!!! Maybe split our time with sleeps in two areas in that region.

Much to consider, and I greatly appreciate the input.