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Itinerary Advice - 3/4 Days in Paris

Hello,

My sister and I will be spending 6 days in Paris and Florence in early June (first time in Western Europe!) and would love your opinions on whether the Paris part of my itinerary seems doable or if I'm trying to schedule in too much (or if you think there's anything important I'm missing). I'm also a college student on a budget so I'd welcome any advice on how to save money or if anything on here isn't worth the money. Here's what I was thinking:

Tuesday: land at CDG at 9, take a free walking tour in early afternoon, see Pere Lachaise Cemetery, get dinner then walk along Champs Elysees and climb L'Arc de Triomphe

Wednesday: see Versailles in morning, tour Notre Dame and Saint Chapelle in early afternoon, see Louvre in evening

[In Italy Thurs - Sat, may try to fit in a Vedettes cruise on Saturday night]

Sunday: visit Musee D'Orsay (getting there before opening since it's a free day), picnic in Luxembourg Gardens, climb Eiffel Tower, then check out another museum if still have energy

Monday: souvenir shopping, possibly fitting in Orangerie or Sacre Coeur, leaving for GDG by 1:30 for a 4:30 flight

I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this plan, and I'd also love to hear thoughts on whether it's worth braving the crowds at the Musee D'Orsay to save money. Any comments or advice would be appreciated! :)

Posted by
1741 posts

Wednesday seems overly full, to me, especially keeping in mind you will likely face lineups, and you need to factor in travel time to Versailles.

Posted by
1450 posts

Since you're young there should be energy to burn, so you may be able to do all this. But it strikes me that the one thing you're not seeing while in Paris is Paris. The sights you listed are all wonderful, but you have too much planned with no time left over for wandering around or loitering at a cafe.

Posted by
12 posts

Those are good points, thanks! I agree that I want to factor in time to just relax and enjoy the city - I thought I'd have some time in between the sites but I might be wrong about that. I know this is a hard question to answer since it depends on the individual but what do you guys think makes sense to cut (what would you cut out if you were me)? I'm thinking about skipping Versailles for my first trip since it would take the longest to get to, but I've heard it's super beautiful so I'd be bummed to miss it...

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1450 posts

No one can really answer that since we don't know what you like or what your priorities are. If it were me, I'd do the Orsay on Wednesday, ax the Louvre and Versailles, and spend all day Sunday just enjoying the city (the picnic is a great start!). Scare Coeur is a waste of time, but Montmartre on the other hand, is worth all day exploring. But I've been to Paris several times, so that colors my opinion.

Posted by
6713 posts

I guess you already have your flights booked, but it seems odd that you'd fly into Paris, then to Italy and back to Paris, then home from Paris. A more efficient plan would be "open jaw" into Paris and home from Rome or Venice or wherever in Italy, saving you the time and cost of backtracking, giving you more time for either Paris or Italy. Something to keep in mind for your next trip, maybe.

It's a rushed itinerary but you're high-energy. Hopefully, though, this won't be your only chance to visit Paris. Your destinations are kind of far-flung, from Pere Lachaise to Versailles to Montmartre, adding to the time you'll spend getting places. I would skip Versailles on such a short trip, unless you have strong reasons to want to see it. Even if you get there early, you'll have long lines and big crowds, and getting there and back will take awhile. If all you want to do that afternoon are Notre Dame and Ste-Chappelle (another line) you should be OK though. I'm sure you know that you'll have time only for a small slice of the Louvre that evening.

After Italy, I hope you can fit in a river cruise, if not that first evening then later. The Batobus is a lower-cost alternative to the narrated cruises, and runs till 9:30 in June (it may not be completely dark by then). If you can climb all the way up the Eiffel Tower you'll burn a lot of that energy and time. Don't feel like you have to, though -- the view is also excellent from the lower levels.

Other museums you might consider if you're not museum-ed out: Cluny (medieval), Carnavalet (Paris history, plus free), Pompidou (modern art), Picasso, Marmottan (Monet, pretty far west of other sights), Rodin (the sculpture garden is enough, and cheap), Army (at Invalides, Napoleon's tomb a bonus). If you were spending your Paris time in one block instead of two, the Museum Pass might be a good value, but with the Italy interval it probably wouldn't be worth it.

I hope you and your sister have a wonderful trip and return somewhat slightly less dazed! ;-)

Posted by
7175 posts

You have too much planned on Wednesday. Something has to give - Pere Lachaise might be best left. This, I think, is more manageable.

Tuesday
Sacre Coeur & Montmartre
Champs Élysées & Arc de Triomphe

Wednesday
Versailles
Louvre

Sunday
Orangerie
Musee D'Orsay
Luxembourg Gardens
Eiffel Tower

Monday
Sainte Chapelle
Notre Dame

Posted by
12 posts

Thanks! I know the flight plan isn't the most efficient but because of timing issues it made sense to be done this way (we were only able to finalize our Florence plans last week and I needed to buy my transatlantic ticket before that) - the next time I go on a trip like this I'll definitely consider open jaw.

It's sounding like it'll make sense for me to skip Versailles since I'm in Paris for such a short time - that will give me a good excuse to come back :) And I'll definitely look more into those other museum suggestions! They all sound incredible, I'm just trying to figure out where it makes sense to spend my money...

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Updated itinerary: does this look any better?

Tuesday: free walking tour then Orsay in afternoon (2:30 to 5 or 6), get dinner and see Champs Elysees/L'Arc de Triomphe

Wednesday: Pere Lachaise (and maybe Orangerie) in morning, Notre Dame and St Chapelle in afternoon (I might switch these but my sister has plans in the morning and wants to see St Chapelle so idk), Louvre in evening (I know I won't see close to all of it but I've heard the crowds are more bearable at this time)

Saturday: Landing at Orly at 6, dinner and then Seine cruise

Sunday: visit one of the smaller free museums, picnic at Luxembourg Gardens, climb Eiffel Tower, then shopping

Monday: brunch then any souvenir shopping/sightseeing that I missed, leaving around 1:30

Posted by
7175 posts

Sainte Chapelle is best done first thing, due to the light on the stained glass, and also before crowds build excessively. Oh, and museums can be a strain to take in on your arrival day when coping with any jet lag.

Posted by
15784 posts

Tuesday - skip the walk along the Champs Elysees - just a few shops, McDonalds, and lots of tourists. Take the metro to the Arc de Triomphe stop (Charles de Gaulle/Etoille).

Wednesday - Sainte Chapelle can be visited by going to a concert in the evening. That way you avoid the possibly long lines for security checks and ticket sales. Get there early and you'll have plenty of time to take photos and then enjoy the stained glass windows (binoculars or opera glasses will help) during the concert. If you do that, switch it to Sunday night, if you still want to visit the Louvre in the evening.

Monday - don't underestimate the time it will take you to get to the airport or the time you need at the airport before your flight. Remember that you'll have to return to your hotel to get your luggage to leave for CDG.

Posted by
8553 posts

What is your dream of Paris? I'd not try to cover so many particulars but build each day around one thing in the morning and one in the afternoon and then fill in with a little wandering and exploring in the general area of those things.

Versailles is not a morning excursion -- it takes most of a day. And a tiring day. You may not be up for museuming the same evening. Might be a day for the Seine Cruise and perhaps Notre Dame at the end of the day and a nice dinner before that cruise.

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14738 posts

It looks like to me your 2nd plan is better. I also thought about whether a Paris Museum Pass would be worth it to you. You would have to run the numbers to see if it will pay money-wise, but it often helps time-wise if you are close to even on the money.

For Tuesday if you do D'Orsay and go up in the Arc d'Triomphe, these are covered by the Museum Pass. If on Wednesday you do l'Orangerie and Sainte-Chapelle as well as perhaps the Tower at Notre Dame that would be covered as well so a 2-day pass would work for that. It would also allow you to pop in to the Louvre at some point if you are in the neighborhood.

http://en.parismuseumpass.com/rub-m-by-name-5.htm

Yes, and considering your departure time, does your flight leave at 1:30? If so, and if this if your flight returning to the US you need to be at the airport 3 hours ahead, so plan on perhaps leaving your lodging 4 hours ahead. Might not give you much shopping time.

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483 posts

I agree with many of these suggestions to manage your time well - and also thought a 2 day Museum Pass might be helpful. I like the freedom it gives you to pop in to places for shorter visits if you're nearby - and you might see some things you otherwise might not choose - like the Cluny, for example. It is interesting and small, and we didn't see it until our 3rd trip...and then went there again with our kids last summer. They liked it too, (2 college-aged "kids" along with a teen) - so that is something to consider. The Museum Pass would cover most of what you've identified as places you're like to see.

Personally, I saw enough of the Champs-Elysées from the top of the Arc de Triomphe - and liked that perspective better! You can really appreciate the layout of the streets and buildings from that view, and being there at nightfall is especially nice. I found the avenue at ground level to be loud, smoggy, crowded, and very commercial. That's a matter of personal taste, of course - but I would agree with another poster that finding a section of Paris to browse and explore might give you a better feel of the city, rather than following a frantic point-to-point itinerary.

Our family stayed in the Latin Quarter for part of our visit simply because there were so many things to see and do there that would be interesting to our kids (and we had Museum Passes). Fun and varied shops to explore, Marks and Spencer for yummy picnic items, the nearby Luxembourg Gardens for picnics and strolling, close to the Cluny, the Pantheon, and more. Very close to the Seine as well - a great central location for our explorations. We really liked being able to find a great breakfast cafe - and then return there the next day and the next, as we familiarized ourselves with "our neighborhood" for our stay. There are a lot of places to eat in that area, for a variety of prices. I think it would be a good area for college students to explore.

I've heard that the free days at the museums are really crowded - and I must say that there is a lot of pleasure for me to bypass a line with my trusty Museum Pass :0) The Musee d'Orsay is absolutely wonderful - and more manageable in the evening it if is crowded. We went to the Louvre one very long and hot day last summer - spent about 6 hours there, went back to the hotel for more AC and resting, and then returned in the evening, as it was a late night. I loved being able to do that with the pass as well - so much less crowded, and easier to take our time enjoying the art in the evening.

As for both Paris and Florence, you might enjoy downloading Rick's audio tours to listen to either before you get there, or as you walk through some of the sights. I learned a lot more about the collection at the Accademia beyond Michelangelo's David by listening to the audio before and during my visit there. There was a great shop for picnic items right outside the Accademia Gallery - reasonable prices for the students in our tour. A lot of the fun for us in our travels was checking out the food stores and finding new things to try - we didn't want to do the restaurant scene all the time as it would have been really expensive for the five of us!

Check out the websites for the Orsay and Louvre - it may help you plan your visit if you know you'll have limited time. Hopefully you can go with the attitude that you'll be back to see more next time! Paris has so much to offer...I hope I'll have another chance to return.

Enjoy your trip!
Laurie

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6713 posts

You really should be at the airport by 1:30 for a 4:30 international flight, and allow about an hour to get there from central Paris. You might be lucky and early, or unlucky and late -- early is better if you have to choose. Even if you don't miss the flight, you don't want to be stressing all the way from your hotel to the gate. I'd recommend the RER "B" if you're anywhere near its route -- and be sure to get on the "B3" train going to CDG rather than the "B5" which branches off to Mitry-Claye.