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Ideal Itinerary for Dordogne region

I am interested in suggestions for ideal itinerary for 5 days in Dordogne for the end of June 28th and beginning of July. I am staying in a house in Sarlat for the entire week and would be interested in day trips from there. I have two teenage boys traveling with me so attention spans are rather short.

I am definitley interested in visiting the caves in the area if someone can recommend the best tour company and tour expereince. I would also be interested in a canoeing and or horse back trip to see the country side and some of the villages

We are all fully vacinated and I am also wondering if we will have any trouble with the trains going from Paris to Versaillies and train from Paris to Brive. We are renting a car once we get to Brive but will need to rely on the train to get from Paris to Brive and from Paris to Versaillies.

Anne

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We too plan to tour the Dordogne region as part of a longer trip starting in Barcelona in mid - August of this year. Vacinated and ready to travel! We will, therefore, be interested in the responses you receive and how they differ from RS France 2020.
We look forward to adapting to European expectations of us American independent travelers during the re-opening process.
Mike

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The SNCF website isn't working for me at the moment. You can try hitting https://en.oui.sncf. If it misbehaves for you as well, you can use the Deutsche Bahn website for your initial research. You just won't be able to get information on French fares there.

What I'm seeing at the moment for the trip to Brive-la-Gaillarde is that most departures are from the Gare Montparnasse and take 5 to 7 hours with at least one change along the way. Do pay attention to the transfer time allowed if you have to switch trains somewhere. Check the size (population) of the place you'd be changing to get an idea of how large and busy the station might be. It doesn't take long to change trains, but you sometimes have to go down a flight of steps and then back up another flight, and it's not something I'd want to do with a 5-minute transfer time unless I was wearing all my luggage on my back (which is not going to happen)--and even then I'd be aware a missed connection was possible.

There is, however, a lovely, direct (no-change) train that's the fastest overall. The possible disadvantage is that the train departs Paris at 4:41 PM and arrives in Brive at 9 PM. There's no small-town French rental-car agency open at 9 PM, so this may be a deal-breaker. It could also be an issue with picking up the key for the house you're renting. Otherwise, I think this would be grand. You'd have much of the day in Paris. You'd be able to pick up food for dinner (ideally not something smelly like fish), which you could eat on the train.

Another advantage of the 4:41 PM departure is that it's an Intercity train rather than a TGV. It probably moves a little slower down the track, but it makes up for that by not requiring you to cool your heels at one or more transfer points along the way. The ticket would probably be a good bit cheaper than one of the connecting routes involving a long TGV segment.

At the moment the DB website doesn't show any Paris-Brive connections arriving before 4:56 PM; even that might make you too late to get to the rental-car pick-up point that day. Maybe more trains will be added as things open up more. Otherwise, you might consider taking that late IC and crashing for the night in Brive. The historic center is fun to walk around, assuming you'll have some decent light in that part of town after 9 PM. I'm usually back in my hotel before then, so I can't tell you what to expect.

This paragraph edited: Another possibility: Pick up the car in Perigueux rather than Brive. There is an earlier train arrival in Perigueux (nice town). ViaMichelin suggests that it might take an extra 15 to 20 minutes to drive to Sarlat from Perigueux instead of from Brive. I have no idea where the respective car-rental agencies are located or what sort of traffic you'd face heading out of town. But the train trip will be just 4 hours. That early train leaves Paris at 9:45 AM and arrives in Perigueux at 1:45 PM. (Again, you can save time if you pack a lunch to eat on the train.) There's a change in Bordeaux with a 28-minute layover, which should be fine. The Paris-Bordeaux leg is a TGV, so it will probably be rather pricey.

If you decide to hop over to Rocamadour, be sure to allow youselves enough time to go up to the religious section of town. If all you do is walk down on the lower level, you'll see nothing but tacky souvenir shops and restaurants packed to the gills with tourists.

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One thing that is fun to do and might appeal to the boys is canoeing on the Dordogne River. There are several companies that will rent canoes and outfit you with life jackets. They arrange a pick-up time and place, so that you don’t have to worry about that. The river is shallow and slow moving, so experience is not really necessary.

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If you decide to hop over to Rocamadour, be sure to allow youselves enough time to go up to the religious section of town. If all you do is walk down on the lower level, you'll see nothing but tacky souvenir shops and restaurants packed to the gills with tourists.

I guess nothing has changed in the 20+ years since we were there. We spent one night there; 3-4 hours would have been plenty. But the view of Rocamadour from the road was spectacular.

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I've got two great day trips for you:

  1. RIVER DAY. From Carsac (and other places), you can rent a canoe and and go down the Dordogne by yourself. From Carsac to Beynac makes a nice half-day. You can stop at any number of sandy islets in the river for a picnic (food from the Sarlat market), and stop in at La Roque Gageac to look around. The company will pick you up wherever you arrange and bring you back to the base.

  2. PREHISTORIC DAY. Drive up to Montignac. Go to the Tourist Office to get tickets for Lascaux II. Spend a couple of hours at Lascaux II and see the cave paintings. Drive to La Roque St Cristophe to see cave dwellings. Drive to Les Eyzies to the Prehistoric Museum. Drive back to Sarlat via Beynac. Here is a Google map of the route: https://www.google.ca/maps/dir/Sarlat-la-Can%C3%A9da,+France/Montignac,+France/Lascaux+II,+Lieu-dit+Lascaux,+Montignac,+France/La+Roque+St.+Christophe,+Roque+Saint-Christophe,+Peyzac-le-Moustier,+France/Mus%C3%A9e+National+de+Pr%C3%A9histoire/Beynac-et-Cazenac,+24220,+France/24200+Sarlat-la-Can%C3%A9da,+France/@44.9515358,0.9880132,11z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m44!4m43!1m5!1m1!1s0x12ab56113efacd5d:0x40665174817f470!2m2!1d1.217292!2d44.890891!1m5!1m1!1s0x47ff54749db5da27:0x406651748180220!2m2!1d1.16138!2d45.064332!1m5!1m1!1s0x47ff546604dfe8ad:0x1a4f440a5b5bbc8e!2m2!1d1.1681859!2d45.0538453!1m5!1m1!1s0x12ab52ac02bdcd7f:0xc17e77aedc3c64a3!2m2!1d1.0696374!2d44.9885507!1m5!1m1!1s0x12ab4c36e74bb5cd:0x6a42b3eb143cc63f!2m2!1d1.0136149!2d44.9361329!1m5!1m1!1s0x12ab50b1b941550b:0x4066517481810f0!2m2!1d1.141277!2d44.8406!1m5!1m1!1s0x12ab56113efacd5d:0x40665174817f470!2m2!1d1.217292!2d44.890891!3e0?hl=en

La Roque St Christophe is not well publicized. Here are some pictures to give you an idea: https://www.google.ca/search?q=la+roque+st+christophe&sxsrf=ALeKk00tNXfBtrLkFKvg8YO7ya5SB3Z9eg%3A1621620535924&source=hp&ei=N_enYPW4NbSs5NoP1pG2sA4&iflsig=AINFCbYAAAAAYKgFRz78cMtyG0yDrz8vNPl4c-B_OjQL&gs_ssp=eJzj4tZP1zc0MjbLzU0rNGC0UjWoMDRKTDI1Skw2MEpKSU4xT7MyqEg2NE81N09MTUk2TjYzSTT2EstJVCjKLyxNVSguUUjOKMosLskvyEgFAFWrF-c&oq=la+roque+st+&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAEYADILCC4QxwEQrwEQkwIyBggAEBYQHjIGCAAQFhAeMgYIABAWEB4yBggAEBYQHjIGCAAQFhAeMgYIABAWEB4yBggAEBYQHjIGCAAQFhAeMgYIABAWEB46BwguECcQkwI6BAgjECc6BQgAEJECOggILhCxAxCDAToICAAQsQMQgwE6DgguELEDEIMBEMcBEKMCOgUIABCxAzoICC4QxwEQowI6CwguELEDEMcBEKMCOgIILjoICC4QkQIQkwI6CAguEMcBEK8BOg4ILhCxAxCDARDHARCvAToGCAAQChADOgIIADoECAAQAzoLCC4QsQMQxwEQrwE6BQguEJMCOgQIABAKOggIABAWEAoQHlD-CFjuGWD8J2gAcAB4AIABe4gBtQmSAQM2LjaYAQCgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6&sclient=gws-wiz

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Why do you suggest Lascaux II instead of IV? I have read that the IV tour is more"circus like" according yo RS France....what caves are you actually seeing on II? we are headed that way in June of 2022.. so would appreciate your added input.