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Early Planning: Chamonix – Lyon – Paris

Planning a September trip to France after a week in England visiting my husband’s family and our friends. I’m only at the beginning of the planning stage – so much fun – but wanted to make sure my thinking is correct.

3 nights in Chamonix–3 nights in Lyon–4 nights in Paris (tempted to up this 5 but that would mean one more vacation day used + going back to work on a Tuesday + more money) Current plan is flying out on 8/30, which means arriving in London on 8/31. But more important for this post, we'll fly into Geneva and check into our hotel in Chamonix on 9/6, travel to Lyon on 9/9 and train to Paris on 9/12.

We’re going to fly either from Bournemouth or London to Geneva. I’d love to fly from Bournemouth, where we’ll be based in the UK, but lack of early morning flights and extra baggage fees mean we’ll most likely fly from London. So, we won’t have to deal with the normal jetlag coming from the states.

Originally, I thought we’d just take a shuttle from Geneva to Chamonix but then I saw that the train from Chamonix to Lyon is 4-5 hours. Is that correct? I’m trying to maximize our vacation time and minimize our travel time as much as possible. So…Instead of taking the shuttle, the current plan is to rent a car in Geneva, drive it to Chamonix where it will mainly, if not completely, sit in a car park for our 3-night stay. This comes out at 120-ish Euro, which would be only slightly higher than the shuttle and train tickets combined. Plus, the drive is 2.5 hours as opposed to 4-5 by train.

In Chamonix, our priorities are: Augille du Medi and then the gondola to Helbronner (if they fix it in time) and paragliding. If we have time, we’ll do the Mer du Glace and other hikes/attractions. Plus eating and drinking and just generally taking in the sites. Oh, and to find a good restaurant for fondue and raclette. I’m all about the cheese!

Depending on how we feel, we may stop in Annecy for a few hours on the way to Lyon. But…we will be traveling on a Sunday and I did want to make it in time for the Sunday market in Lyon. We’re early risers so it’s possible but it’ll be a game day decision since it’s one or the other. This is another good reason for renting the car.

In Lyon, we’ll mostly be eating and drinking our way through the city. I’ve also found a full-day winery tour out of Lyon to the northern Rhone Valley that I’d like to do.

Then we’ll train to Paris and enjoy the city for 4, possibly 5, nights and fly out of CDG.

Anyone see any issue with renting the car in Geneva instead of the shuttle/train situation? I realize my husband will need to get the International Driving Permit since his UK license has expired. Am I missing anything?

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Be sure you get a French car to avoid an international drop charge.

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Yes, I saw that you need to rent from the French side of the airport. I'm learning so much in the planning stage! I also saw some posts where it was difficult to navigate that side of the airport/area. Or is that just if you're returning the car there?

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I’ve also found a full-day winery tour out of Lyon to the northern Rhone Valley that I’d like to do.
Do it, at least if it's not just visiting a couple of the large producers (e.g., Guigal, Chapoutier). Northern Rhone wines are some of the best in the world.

As to the car rental, getting out of the airport from the French side is pretty easy; returning is a little trickier. You might want to ask at the rental desk; they'll probably give you a little map, or show you on a map. You want to make sure that you stay in France, so that you don't have an issue with a vignettte. The Geneva airport web site, has a map (see link below) that shows 3 routes to the French sector, 1 of which stays entirely in France. While it's aimed at getting you to the airport, it's also useful for seeing how you would leave.
http://www.gva.ch/en/Portaldata/1/Resources/fichiers/publications/af.pdf

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Thanks for the info on both points, Robert!
I'm looking at doing #2 tour and he gets amazing reviews on Trip Advisor. Unless you or someone else has other suggestions.

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Regarding the International Driving Permit -- your husband DOES have a valid, unexpired driver's license from somewhere, correct? IDP is merely a standardized translation of your own country's license, not a stand-alone certificate.

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Ha! Yes, he has a valid U.S. license. I only made the reference about the UK license as he's driven all over Europe in the past without needing anything additional so finding out he needed a IDP was new information for us.

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Rather than a car rental, look at the Chamonix Express bus and the Ouibus. Both have departures from the airport (GVX) to Chamonix multiple times a day. Both take 1:30 and are very inexpensive.

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Thanks, Gerri!
The reason for renting the car is the second leg of the journey, Chamonix to Lyon. The train is 4-5 hours and driving is only 2.5. Plus, we can decide at the last minute if we want to stop in Annecy.

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Plus, we can decide at the last minute if we want to stop in Annecy.

Do stop in Annecy if it's at all possible. It's really worth it. And it has a Sunday morning market in the medieval center.

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Beckslash,

This sounds like an intelligent, straightforward plan. My advice is to keep it straightforward. I am skeptical of two things in particular.

This comes out at 120-ish Euro, which would be only slightly higher
than the shuttle and train tickets combined. Plus, the drive is 2.5
hours as opposed to 4-5 by train.

I am sure that driving is faster, but it won't be that much faster. Don't believe the mapping sites. I'd add 20-30 minutes plus another 30+ for getting into Lyon and getting rid of the car. (Adding Annecy would be another 20-30 minutes on the road.) Train goes to city center..

So figure a car saves you an hour and ten minutes over the train (which stops in Annecy, if you care).

In Lyon, we’ll mostly be eating and drinking our way through the city.
I’ve also found a full-day winery tour out of Lyon to the northern
Rhone Valley that I’d like to do.

The heart has its reasons, but with only 2 days on the ground in Lyon I think this is a poor use of your time.

It goes without saying that both of these things are your call, of course.

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Good points, Adam. I was most interested in saving time from door to door and if the mapping sites are inaccurate and having to drop the car off at the airport in Lyon since it's a Sunday, we wouldn't really be saving that much time by the time we got to our hotel in Lyon. I'll rethink that.

Both stopping in Annecy and the wine tour will take time away from being in Lyon. This is a tough one because as you said, the heart wants what the heart wants. Luckily, we're far enough out that I don't have to make this decision right away.