OK, we know that France is opening up to Americans beginning July 1. Various European countries will issue this "vaccination certificate." This is very exciting! But nobody is telling me HOW exactly to obtain this certificate. I know it is early, but to do my
planning efficiently, I need to understand how to get this important document. This will open Europe to multiple countries on our next visit starting in Paris. Does anyone have insight that can lead me to actually having this vaccination certificate in my hands? I am always frustrated with grand announcements that never fully explain the procedure. Thanks, George.
France opened to Americans today, June 9.
The green certificate for use by US citizens isn’t ready. Keep checking the Embassy site for whichever country you’re planning to visit.
That's because there is no procedure. This is all just developing, and these countries' own citizens are their first priority. Everything is continuously changing.
We have to beg one of the EU member nations to get a covid passport it is at their discretion. Kinda ridiculous if you ask me.
So far, I don’t see any evidence that Americans are going to be able to benefit from the digital green certificate.
(And Sandra is right, France opened to U.S. tourists — if they are vaccinated— yesterday.)
The pass sanitaire (digital certificate) will be included in the AntiCovid app which reads the QR codes associated with vaccination verification. There is presently no accepted protocol for the app to accept OR codes for vaccinations given outside the EU.
Some US states have databases of vaccinated individuals and have already issued QR codes as proof of vaccination. Potentially, these data bases can be cross-referenced by the EU governments and ultimately accepted as proof of vaccination.
Yes, potentially. I really don't see France making deals with individual U.S. states, though.
We have to beg one of the EU member nations to get a covid passport
Just use your CDC card.
Had the US developed and accepted the idea of vaccination passports, at least for those who might want them, this whole process could have been greatly simplified. It would probably have given the EU sufficient confidence in US record keeping to eliminate the need for visitor PCR/Antigen testing altogether.
There is at least one example of the French government coordinating database information with individual US states. That effort resulted with citizens of a number of states having full, driver´s license reciprocity with French.
Tocard, can you provide a reference for that statement about France and individual states' licenses? I'd like to check into that.
We couldn’t have a national database due to vaccine hesitancy. The CDC card is different from the Covid certificate the EU is issuing.
Stan, re drivers license reciprocity, just Google it. It's for resident visa holders, not short term visitors and is well-known in the ex-pat community. I turned in my license in the 1970s for a French license that's valid my whole life.
Tocard is correct that France coordinates with individual States on this.
Ok that makes sense. Wasn't doubting it, just curious as to how and why.
stan - are you planning on a move to France? Here is the information:
https://franceintheus.org/spip.php?article376
The CDC card is different from the Covid certificate the EU is issuing.
Other than the fact that the CDC card is a piece of paper easily faked or forged and the Covid QR codes used in the EU are government issued at time of injection and tied to a central data base, how are they different?
The vaccination databases already exist in many states. It really would not have been an enormous effort to add one more verifiable entry to the database. There are private interests doing the same thing in the US that EU governments were able to do. For example, Clear, is adding pertinent vaccination information to their customers profiles to facilitate quicker airport access.
These elements are exactly what makes up the pass sanitaire for French citizens. In a very practical sense, this could have easily been done in the US.
tocard - if I were younger.
tocard - if I were younger.
If you were younger, you would be too busy working.
Had the US developed and accepted the idea of vaccination passports, at least for those who might want them, this whole process could have been greatly simplified. It would probably have given the EU sufficient confidence in US record keeping to eliminate the need for visitor PCR/Antigen testing altogether.
Amen.
Obviously I know about the few states that have worked out agreement for their drivers' licenses. But I really don’t see the French working state by state to decide whether they accept vaccination records or not!!! I think the French acceptance of some states' driver's licenses happened over a number of years. We’re looking at a more compressed timeline here. I just don't see it happening. I could be wrong.
New York might be in a position to work out something with the EU: