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Canoes, 5 Year Old, What's the deal?

Hi - I have a 5 and a half year old child that I was hoping to taking for a canoe ride on the Dordogne and possibly under the Pont du Gard. It seems that French regulations discourage this. I've gone to many canoe rental websites and the French rules (as I've read them) state:

  1. Child must be 6 years old
  2. Child must be able to swim 25 meters

So.....should I assume that it ain't going to happen for us on this trip or should I assume that nobody really cares and as long as I sign the waiver its all good?

Thanks,
Matt

Posted by
605 posts

Kent - I'm pretty sure it is a French rule that the companies must follow to be able to buy insurance - due to the uniformity of the rules from company to company (in the Dordogne, Loire, and Pont du Gard). I'm mainly wondering how seriously everyone takes the rules.

Posted by
8293 posts

Never mind the age issue, Can your child swim 25 meters?

Posted by
10117 posts

Birth certificate, probably not since you have a passport with her birth date. The French take the ability to swim to save yourself very seriously. It's part of the curriculum in elementary and middle school. Kids are taken to a pool for lessons and earn grades. This would correspond to the age six requirement.

Posted by
7977 posts

I have no idea if this is enforced carefully generally but in the past I have seen children obviously not 6 years old in canoes on the Dordogne. Of course everyone should be wearing a life vest. If it were me I would just walk up and rent a canoe and see what happens.

Posted by
795 posts

If a company has a rule, I would respect it. They may have certain rules due to insurance or legal rules you don't know about. You can certainly ask at the time of booking if a child who can swim 25 meters and is within months of being 6 can go or not. If not, accept that gracefully. We can't presume that other countries or businesses will change or ignore regulations for us. You might be able to rent a larger boat and carry along a 5 1/2 year old as it would be deemed safer or take a river cruise. They will check the child's age on her passport. Water safety is a huge deal in France. I doubt if a company would ignore safety laws and rules. If something went wrong and your child drowned, they would lose their insurance and likely their license to run the business and whoever did the ignoring could go to jail for endangering a child. Just ask yourself, is bending safety rules worth your child's life?

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7977 posts

The risk of a child in a lifevest in a canoe on the Dordogne with his or her parents who can swim and are in lifevests, in the canoe is about as close to zero as it is possible to give. It is absurd to consider this 'putting your child's life at risk.'

Posted by
605 posts

Thanks everyone. Especially for the perspectives on Frances views on water safety. I have the information I need.

Matt

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605 posts

The answer to this turns out to be (1) the minimum age is 5 years, (2) nobody at the canoe company cares and (3) at the current water level the risk was as close to zero as possible. We had a great time.

Posted by
32510 posts

Thanks for the update, Matt.

I'm glad that your gang had a great time.

Doesn't it bother you that nobody at the canoe company cares? Wouldn't you want them to be safety conscious?

Posted by
7977 posts

The people in the canoe company having common sense know that a child in a life vest with two parents in life vests on the Dordogne is not at risk.