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12 Days in France - Paris, Mont Saint-Michel, Loire Valley, Dordogne

Hello everyone:

We are planning to spend 12 effective days in France in March. This is our second time in France. We only visited Paris the first time around.
Please help review my itinerary and let me know if these are realistic travel plans or comment if you have better suggestions.
Thanks beforehand.

Day 1 Arrived in CDG

Day 2 Relax Day + Pick up car rental

Day 3 Drive to Mont Saint-Michel
Stay in Mont Saint-Michel

Day 4 Drive to Loire Valley
Visit Château de Chenonceau, Château de Chambord
Stay in Amboise

Day 5 Visit Château d’Amboise, Clos Luce
Stay in Amboise

Day 6 Drive to Rocamadour
Stay in Rocamadour

Day 7 Visit Autoire & Carennac
Stay in Rocamadour

Day 8 Drive & Visit Sarlat
Stay in Sarlat

Day 8 Visit Château de Beynac, Kayaking, La Roque Gageac
Stay in Sarlat

Day 9 Drive to Bordeaux & Return Car Rental
Stay in Bordeaux

Day 10 Take TGV to Paris
Stay in Paris

Day 11 Visit Versailles & do other activities
Stay in Paris

Day 12 Extra day in Paris
Stay in Paris

Posted by
1570 posts

DX, You are starting off well, but Day 4 will be taken up by a 4 1/2 hour drive, so after checking in at your Ambois lodgings you will effectively have time to visit only one chateau (I would choose Chenonceaux). On Day 6 your drive will probably take about 5 1/2 hours. You don't show any plans for touring or visiting anything that day, so that is good. I say that because in route planning with viamichelin.com (or other sites) they don't usually allow time for gas/food/comfort stops, so I always add another hour to my drive time. Also, the routes shown are usually on the Autoroutes. You may choose to take the slower and more scenic roads; if so, it will take a bit longer.

IMO Rocomadour is very disappointing because it is so touristy. There are lots more scenic towns in the area where you may prefer to stay. Do a little research on nearby towns. On Day 8, you show driving to Sarlat, visiting the town, going kayaking, visiting Chateau de Beynac and La Roque Gageac. That is too much for one day. There are not enough hours in the day for all those activities. Kayaking alone, including before and after prep and return to car, etc. use up about 4 hours. Visiting Beynac castle also will take about 2 hours. You need to factor in time to go from place to place and eat lunch. Did you mean these things are for 2 days? You do show 2 listings for Day 8.
I have a suggestion to throw in here. On your drive to Bordeaux day, you could visit one of the prehistoric caves in the morning and leave for Bordeaux about 1:00. It does seem a shame to be there and not see Lascaux IV, at least.
Bordeaux from Sarlat takes about 3-3 1/2 hours and you can drop the car at the train station. There are hotels around the station and lots of places to eat within walking distance, plus Bordeaux has a good tram system. The TGV to Paris is just over 2 hours, so if you leave on an early train you will have a good afternoon and evening in Paris. A realistic day trip to Versailles takes up most of a day, so other activities (after return from there to Paris) should probably be things that don't need 3 or 4 hours each, so you aren't rushed.
Overall, your plan is doable. Just be sure to factor in time to check in and out of your lodgings, gas stops, etc. on driving days and find time to sit and have a a relaxed meal. And check out what you have listed for day 8.
Bonne chance et boin voyage!

Posted by
2544 posts

I confirm Judy's recommendation about the Dordogne.

Please, even if it's March, don't make the mistake of staying in Rocamadour, it's THE tourist trap!

Try to find a place in Martel instead, one of the most beautiful villages in France. At least you'll have restaurants, bars and real shops, not sellers of trinkets made in China for groups of tourists on organized tours.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/Cjc9ZP2KZn8Fe47s6

https://www.visit-dordogne-valley.co.uk/discover/cultural-heritage/villages-to-visit/martel

If you want to go to Rocamadour you can still go, it's less than 30 minutes drive from Martel.

In Martel you will be in the middle of an area with 5 other most beautiful villages in France within a 30 minute drive.
You have already planned Carennac and Autoire, the others are:
Turenne, Collonge la Rouge, Aussoire and Curemonte.

There are several hotels and B&Bs in Martel, check for example if there are still rooms available at the 5* B&B "La Devinie".

https://www.la-devinie.com/home.html

There is also nearby the Gouffre de Padirac but it only opens from late March, like many other caves with or without painting

I made this map, locate Martel and see the activities and visits you can do. 3 full days does not leave you much time, you will only have a small overview of the region

https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1OdPOg8AgsNn0Jlv1cNHkujaWv9p_Jpc&usp=sharing

About kayaking, there are quite a few kayaking agencies closed until April and this activity is very dependent on the weather, water level and flow of the rivers.

Posted by
4751 posts

I'll third the disdain for Rocamadour, especially for an overnight stay. We spent 10 days in the Dordogne this Fall and if we had a do-over we would have skipped Rocamadour entirely.

We loved Beynac and it's castle and I highly recommend one of the caves; either Lascaux or Font de Gaume.

On your way to Bordeaux consider a side trip to Saint Emilion.

One tip about driving in the Dordogne is to not rely on your GPS. Instead follow the white signs when going from town to town.

Posted by
207 posts

I would suggest flipping your chateaus on days 4 and 5. Drive straight to Amboise, drop your luggage at your hotel, and depending on where you are staying, walk to Chateau d’Amboise and Clos Luce. That would leave you a full day for the bigger chateaus. And you could possibly add a third - Cheverny or Chaumont-sur-Loire. Or just have more time to spend at Chambord and Chaninceau.

Posted by
8110 posts

It seems to me that you are treating your car moves as if they occupy zero time. I know that many people don't hate to have single hotel nights, but we avoid them at all costs. It takes a long time to find all the passports, deal with credit card glitches, and unpack in the new room. I don't mean that our itinerary (link below) should be yours, but I thought I'd offer it. I see that Azay climate in March averages between 39 and 55 Fahrenheit. And you won't have heavy traffic on the narrow local roads, like in summer.

We only spent four or five hours at MSM, so I should not comment on sleeping there. But there have been a lot of posts on this very newsboard about cramped, out of date rooms, and poor dining options. Unlike Bruges, I don't think tiny MSM, with cramped, narrow medieval streets, benefits that much from the mystic hour before the daytrippers arrive. To me, the place is interesting to walk, but not magical. OPINION.

https://community.ricksteves.com/travel-forum/france/normandy-brittany-thoughts

https://community.ricksteves.com/travel-forum/france/loire-base

Posted by
1570 posts

DX,
Gigi8's suggestion about flipping chateaux days is a good one. I wish I had thought of it! Also, I am in the minority that doesn't feel the need to spend the night on MSM, but then again, I have been there three times, hubby about five times, so a walk up (the back way) to the Abbey and a bit of exploration there, followed by a walk down through the village, all done in the morning hours, is enough for me. I still have managed to avoid the huge crowds this way.
Mt St Michel is a one-of-a-kind place, and not to be missed if you can get there. It is up to you how much time you want to spend there.

Posted by
8732 posts

Much too rushed. The logistics of travel take time. It is going to be hard to kayak the Dordogne (a great thing to do) and also visit chateaux as well as travel on the same day. by moving almost every night you are using up so much of your time and energy on logistics.

Rocamadour is a great sight -- much like Mont St Michel best viewed from a distance. We too were disappointed with the tourist trappy town itself but it is quite a sight -- this is one to do as a photo op from a close distance. and stay in a smaller place.

Posted by
12 posts

Ahh. I see that I put "day 8" twice. It was a typo.
It’s supposed to be 13 days in total. So the second "day 8" was supposed to be "day 9" and so on.
Sorry for the confusion.

Thanks, Judy, JoLui, and Allan, for the insight on Rocamadour (and beyond). I am glad I haven't booked the place.
Excellent suggestion, Gigi. I will swap day 4 and 5.
Lastly, I'm thinking of staying outside of MSM to have a better experience.

I appreciate that Geoff and Tim shared your itinerary.

I'm glad to ask from this forum. Many thanks again.