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10-Night Stay - Non-Refundable Hotel Rates

I am planning to be in Paris for 10 nights in December. After looking at many hotels, and based on an email response from one hotel, it seems that a 10-night stay is primarily providing me with non-refundable rates only. I've checked a 10-night stay at a few properties finding only non-refundable rates and then checked a 7-night stay at the same hotel which revealed 'flexible" (refundable) rates. In addition, one hotel responded to my email inquiry saying that because I was looking for a 10-night stay they would only offer me a non-refundable rate. Hmmm. Any insights? There isn't a law about this, is there?

For this trip, my first choice of location is the Right Bank, priced in the $350/night range.

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Have you checked on Booking.com to get ideas of what and where refundable rates are available? You can perhaps find some options and contact the hotels on your own to make comparisons. I always start there. You may find you want to book through them (I have always found them reliable) or directly with the hotel. Good luck in your search!

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Nonrefundable rates have an upside that too often is an insignificant savings, while the downside can be a total loss of the cost of ten days should you not be able to make the trip. Some properties will just keep the charge for one or two nights, depending on their policy.

The only time I would reserve non-refundable rates is if I’m also buying Travel insurance and the policy covers losses for nonrefundable expenses.

Nonrefundable rates can be lucrative to the hotel owners who can legally keep your deposit and then turn around and re-rent the room at the higher last-minute rates desperate travelers to Paris are often so willing to pay.

I would also recommend checking Booking.com and go to the Filter section. In the box titled “Smart Filters” type in “Refundable rates.”
You will see hundreds of properties in Paris.

The hotel on the Right Bank in the Marais I can recommend is called “Hotel de la Bretonnerie.”
It is within your budget, although it often is completely booked up.

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This is just a guess, but it I wonder if it’s that they have a threshold (10 days) where they don’t want to tie up a room for that long with a refundable rate and spurn other requests in the event they sell out. Just a guess…

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17544 posts

I often do 10 night stays in Paris and run into the same thing. I just book 2 stays - 5 and 5 or 7 and 3. When I get there I just make sure the registration staff knows and I have always been able to stay in the same room. For my “regular” hotels I don’t even need to check in again.

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121 posts

This morning I received a response from a hotel saying "we only accept reservations for a maximum of 5 nights". Well, then.

Pam, booking two back-to-back reservations sounds like a good solution. I briefly thought of it, but wondered if I'd run into a problem, like maybe having one or the other canceled.

Kenko, the Hotel de la Bretonniere shows rates for all 10 nights but when I enter my dates, only 7 nights appear on the booking calendar.

There's got to be some business philosophy/practice, local law that makes a longer stay problematic.

Thank you all for your comments.

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19529 posts

A hotel I used to frequent--may it rest in peace--had a policy that if you booked for seven nights or more you had to pay a 25% non-refundable deposit. It was so you didn't tie up a room for a long stay and then cancel at the last minute.

What did I do....when I wanted to stay more than six nights, I would book multiple stays of six nights. The staff and manager figured out what I was doing and didn't have a problem with it.

However, when other people started doing it, they weren't happy. But there was nothing they could do.

Book two stays and when you get there let them know of the second stay and that you want to stay in the same room. It won't be an issue as they will just mark the second stay as "already in the hotel."

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Thank you, Frank. Another vote for back-to-back reservations.

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I’ve not had an issue with cancellations for any of my hotels in Paris (or elsewhere). I do book directly on the hotel website.

I also always book a cancellable rate and pay when I get there. One of my regulars doesn’t charge until checkout, the other charges at check in.

I also go into my email confirmations a few days later to make sure I’ve got all my nights correct but that is checking myself not particularly the hotel, 🤔😉.

For my trip last April I was booking late and my preferred hotel did not have availability for the first 3 (of 10) nights. I booked the nights I could and then booked nearby for the first 3. I checked the preferred hotel literally every single day and managed to pick up those 1st 3 nights as single night reservations. So I think I might have had FOUR reservations for 10 nights! The guy on reception just laughed when he started checking me in.

Let us know how things work out!

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2054 posts

If we were staying 10 nights in Paris instead of our usual 5 nights, I would change hotels in order to experience a different arrondissement. But we prefer new experiences over settled in comfort - we can get that at home. Just a different perspective.

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17544 posts

I do change hotels over a long stay but usually I do 10 nights and 10 mights. I have changed after 5 nights but not sure I would bother with that any more.

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OP,

"the Hotel de la Bretonniere shows rates for all 10 nights but when I enter my dates, only 7 nights appear on the booking calendar."- the other dates might be booked by other guests.

What resource did you use in your original search? I find it very odd that a hotel would only allow 5 nights maximum, even if it is what they are saying. I suppose they want to avoid people "squatting" instead of being tourists.

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Yes, Cynthia, a good point about a different arrondissment. I think the Left Bank has more charm and spending time on both sides of the river might be a good compromise.

Kootah, I search for hotels in a couple of ways, but always, always book on the official site of the hotel. I think your point about "squatting" could be part of it.

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10412 posts

As a general rule, I rarely book non-refundable hotel bookings.
Normally, the price difference is not significant enough, however, I did book a week stay in Amsterdam and saved about 1/3 of the cost.

If you have trip insurance, and have to cancel, check the fine print for coverage.

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I finally made a reservation at the Hotel Astra Opera. 10 nights at a refundable rate that I can accept. This is part of a chain of hotels and you can pop into any of their properties for a complimentary non-alcoholic drink. The location I chose also advertises an afternoon apéro.

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17544 posts

Excellent! I’m glad you found a hotel that works for you!