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Worth the trouble to get a young traveler discount in London?

My son and I will be in London for five days. We will take the Tube and National Rail a fair amount, including to Kew Gardens and Bath. As I understand it, he qualifies for a substantial discount if I get him a visitor oyster card and put a young traveler discount on it, but the visitor oyster card has to be ordered by mail before we get there, and the young traveler discount has to be added in person when we get there, which I won’t be able to do when we arrive at Gatwick before we take the train into town.

I understand the discount could also go on a regular oyster card, but then we give up the daily caps. It will cost at least 8 pounds to have the visitor oyster card sent here. And it’s a substantial disadvantage to me that the card has to be topped up or I have to guess how much money to put on it, versus just tapping in and out with Apple Pay or credit card. Am I really going to save enough money that it’s worth this song and dance of ordering the card ahead of time?

I wonder how many people actually find out about the existence of this card and procure ahead of their trip.

Posted by
8913 posts

Only you can decide if this is worth it to you. I do like the idea of him having a card he is using that is not associated with your credit cards. I would be more likely just to buy an Oyster card on arrival.

Posted by
769 posts

Normal Oyster cards have the daily cap. I don’t think there’s any advantage to a Visitor card.

Posted by
1453 posts

I think it’s more aimed at people who live outside London but are regular visitors. I don’t think it will be worth it for such a short trip.

Posted by
8134 posts

You don't say how old your son is, which makes a difference.

From Gatwick into London, there isn't that much difference between Oyster and normal turn up as you go paper tickets. Oyster is a convenience, not really a money saver on that route.

The most cost effective way from Gatwick is to buy a single to East Croydon. Tap out there then tap back in on Oyster/contactless. The reason is Gatwick is in a special zone, East Croydon is in the normal fare zones.
Given the overall cost of the vacation and Oyster capping what you would save on child fares is relatively small, and you are going through hoops to achieve that.
But adding money to the Oyster is very easy at any tube station ticket machine. There are always staff around to help if you get stuck, if you do opt for the Visitor Card and add the child discount at Victoria when you arrive there from Gatwick.

Posted by
5466 posts

The discount is 50% of the adult fare and that includes the appropriate cap level. This applies both to the pre-ordered Visitors' Oyster card and the regular one with the discount applied.

You have to weigh up whether the £7 fee for an Oyster card is less than the discounts over your visit. For many it will be but not necessarily if you are not an intensive user. You can't use it to Bath anyway which is way outside the Oyster & contactless payment areas - you need National Rail tickets for that.

At Gatwick buy the appropriate child's ticket and don't bother about Oyster & Young Visitor Discount until you get a tube station.

Posted by
33992 posts

key question for the best answer is how old will the lad be when you are travelling. The age breaks are different on the Tube on the trains.

There are also other alternatives, but need to know the age....

Posted by
1232 posts

Given that the OP has worked out that her son is eligible for the Young Visitor Discount I assume that he is between 10 and 15.

The Visitor Oyster card remains a waste of money for pretty much everyone. You have to order it to be sent to you so will pay postage on top of the non-refundable fee. When here in London you won't get any benefit that you can't get from a standard Oyster card beyond a few fairly useless discounts to places we probably wouldn't recommend. The regular card costs a non-refundable £7 and the Young Visitor Discount can be added on arrival just like the Visitor card. All the various caps are applied to both cards and to regular payments with contactless cards and phone and smart watch pay.

Given your son will save 50% on every journey and cap you won't need many trips to make a profit over paying full fares.

Posted by
8134 posts

If he is 13 then you will get the Discount and cap on normal or Visitor Oysters. As on VAP's thread on the same subject could you have the Visitor Card mailed to you domestically from WA or NY?- cheaper and faster.