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Uk trip Itinerary check

I just finished a rough Itinerary for my UK trip. But considering im used to packing my itineraries very full, this seems light? I havnt fit the Trafalgar's square area in yet but since many things start at 9 or 10 am that shouldnt be too hard. The main issue im having is putting to things in the same day. Most things will take about 3 to 4 hours minimum to do them justice. But many things, if not all things close at 5. Which means ill be short changing one of the things or both just to fit things in. Even for me that just doesnt work. Unless im missing something? Here is my itinerary. Please tell me if my assumptions are right please. Keep in mind the 4rth is very packed, but some things I can easily see on other days and spread some out. Also, i ALWAYS push hard the first day to fight jet lag.

Thurs Sept 4 - land. Buffer day. Check in 3pm

London Mithraeum | Bloomberg SPACE
St dunstuns church
Southwark cathedral - roman sites in or around
Golden hinde
Winchester palace (ruins)
Ruins of greyfriars
Roman walls
Roman amphitheatre
Roman fort bear museum of london

Sept 5 natural history museum

Sat Sept 6 Imperial war museum

Sun 7 Tower of london

8 stonehenge 730 am (meet across from the nat his museum) to 2pm

9 bath

10 chester

11 york

12 lincoln

Sat 13 british museum

Sun 14 Kew

15 saint pauls

16 westminster

17 fly home

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Pencilstealer, you're back! And I shouldn't be surprised by your itinerary although I can tell you that the schedule below especially has me cringing. You're going from Bath to Chester to York to Lincoln and back to London in 5 days. I know this is your style, but you will be missing a lot because of all the travel time.

9 bath
10 chester
11 york
12 lincoln
Sat 13 british museum

With regards to the rest, there are some days that are tight and others much looser, so good for you. :-)

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Hey mardee! I was just throwing things in dates to make sure i actually had enough time to do the main things. Notice seeing big ben isnt there! I didnt forget it I just figured id have time before things and/or after things to see it.

As for bath/york/chester/lincoln. Those will most likely be spread out more. Except york and lincoln. Im most likely going to stay the night in york and head to lincoln the next morning. I actually might eliminate bath as well. Im not worried about travel time though :P 2 hours ( give or take ) isnt anything especially if you catch the train and get there before most things open anyways. To be fair though, when tossing things into dates I never even thought about the back and fourth the 4 day trips would be lol. Needless to say that is NOT final

But this isnt that set in stone, other than the places. Ive only got my stonehenge trip booked.

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Seeing your reply to Mardee, I understand that you are just bookmarking some days for certain activities, and not really planning to do things in this order - which is good - because I was going to suggest not doing all those day trips back-to-back.

One way to extend your days is to figure out if anything is open late on particular days....for example, you can visit St. Paul's in the morning and then the British Museum on a Friday afternoon/evening since it is open late on Fridays.

A suggestion is to visit the National Portrait Gallery - as a lover of history, I think you will find it interesting - and it is open late on Saturdays.

Have a great trip!

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As for bath/york/chester/lincoln. Those will most likely be spread out more. Except york and lincoln. Im most likely going to stay the night in york and head to lincoln the next morning.

That would work, I think. I'm one who thinks one day in York is fine, although there are many who disagree with me. :-) I envy you going to Lincoln. That's one place on list of my future destinations in the UK. Also Southwark Cathedral is a gem, but make sure you check when services are, as there is no entry for touring during those times.

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I'm a bit less concerned about this if by train, rather than driving. Although extra days at some stops would be useful. It is efficient use of time.
Bath to Chester by train is under 4 hours- so you can sightsee until 5pm and be in Chester by soon after 9pm.
Chester to York about 3 hours- direct train to Leeds hourly, change for stacks of trains to York. So the same principle.
York to Lincoln about 90 minutes, change at Doncaster or Newark.
Then several direct trains a day Lincoln to London including one at around 8pm, and many others change at Newark. So you can stay for Evensong then train to London.

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Maplady - the only thing off the top of my head that's open later is the British museum on Fridays. And I know better than to go to a museum like this that late. Depending on the day I can spend 5 plus hours in some. I don't want to be limited by time and feel rushed.

I'll have to check out the hours for a few things national gallary and the portrait gallary to see if they're open later.

Marlee- you can thank a friend for suggesting it. And then inbound out about the dozen or so little roman sites littered around. On top of the Norman, Anglo and cathedral sites. I can't say no lol. I.could do york fairly well in a day. Especially if I spend the night.going to York after is a decently efficient use of my time

isn31c - yes I dont have a license. And I wouldn't be dumb enough to try to drive on the left, or in/out of london. Plus I love trains.

I won't be doing all those trips in the order given. If for instance, I do bath and chester back to back id most likely do so through London. To.chester I found routes as fast as 2.5 or 3 hours. Bath is nothing. Barely an hr (although I might eliminate bath of im having problems fitting in things or find something else). York was 2 to 2.5 but some took longer. York to Lincoln and Lincoln to london is basically what you suggest. I don't mind being back i london late. And with the British rail pass i have the freedom to come and go as I please.

Speaking of I did the math (as you suggested i think) it came up to about 400 to 480CAD FOR Bath, chester and York round trips. So even with those 3, not including Lincoln. The pass pays for itself.

The one thing I can't really find is what a "day" is. Is it 24 hrs from the first use? Or does the day change at midnight that day of use?

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You would save time and energy(of checking out of the hotel) if you didn't split up your time in London. Take the train to York the first day you arrive. Do all your days in London at the end of the trip, since you fly home from there.

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Cala - I did that tbis past trip to France (off the flight and a train to.avignon) and delays almost made me miss that train. I won't do that to myself again lol.

I already booked the 2 weeks of hotel in London as I didn't (dont) plan on spending more than a night away (maybe 2 but thats not in the cards atm). But I got a rediculous deal (1000cad) for 13 days, so I couldn't say no and didn't want to wait just to see the price increase.

Theres no real time wasted anyways. I get up early. And getting an early train and arriving before or just after things open eliminates any "wasted" time. And there won't be any checking out except the one night im planning in york.

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I don't know what a day is on Brittail either. On the domestic equivalent it is midnight to 0429 next day, and a sleeper train is dated on Day of arrival, not day of departure. So you could start a domestic pass on a Monday but take the sleeper on a Sunday night.

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Another thing you could do is use some of the money you have saved on hotel costs to upgrade your rail pass to first class. That way there is less issue with crowded trains, you get your meals & alcohol included on Avanti and LNER (time and cost savings) and use of lounges at Euston, Crewe, Birmingham (if you route that way to Chester), Kings Cross, York, Doncaster and Paddington.
GWR is just light snacks included.

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Huh that's good to know. I don't drink and meals aren't super important ( but helpful). Although less crowded is always nice. What benefits to the rail lounges have?

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Somewhere quiet and warm to wait, also free water/soft drinks, snacks, tea and coffee.