Please sign in to post.

Trip report - Bath and London

This forum was so helpful to me in planning our trip to England. I'm sharing a trip report in case our experience can be helpful to others!
The Basics: My husband and I (both in our 50s, both fairly well-traveled) visited England from Oct 14-27. We flew in to Heathrow, went immediately to Bath for 3 nights, then spent the rest of the time in London.

Transportation: We took the National Express bus/coach from Heathrow to Bath. Our flight was due to arrive just after 7am. This was our first time in England, so didn't know what to expect as far as customs, so I booked us on the 11:30am bus to Bath (32 pounds total for the two of us). I knew we'd have a wait but it felt safer to build in the extra time. I saw some advice about buying a changeable ticket, but it looked like we'd only be charged a 5 pound change fee so I didn't do that. As it turned out, our flight arrived at 6:40am, customs took about 3 seconds, and we went to the National Express counter to see if we could catch an earlier bus. There happened to be a 7:30am coach, so we said yes. Unfortunately, in addition to a 5 pound change fee, we were charged 39 pounds more for "excess fare" or something like that. Basically, it seems like they surge priced us. But we paid it as we just wanted to get on the road. The heater on the bus was broken (it was about 45F and rainy) so not the best start. Though really, it was better than sitting in the arrivals hall at Heathrow for 4 hours. And now that we're home, I looked on the National Express website and it does say that changing a standard fare can result in "excess fare." I do think more than doubling the original cost is a bit obnoxious.

I'd also advance booked train tickets on Great Western Railway for our trip back from Bath to London. I reserved two 2d class seats, booking about a month in advance. On the day of our trip, we boarded and there was someone in our seat. It turns out that no reservations were honored at all on that train because they had reduced the number of cars on the train to 5. Initially we couldn't find seats together but people got off on the first stop and we moved to sit together. Not the end of the world, certainly, and the train ride was comfortable and efficient.
London Underground: based on advice from this forum, we used our credit cards to tap in and out, rather than use the Oyster card. Worked like a charm. We hit the daily cap most days (still waiting to see if we qualified for the weekly cap). Absolutely loved being able to get anywhere we needed to go. We stayed in South Kensington, and the Circle/District and Piccadilly lines got us nearly everywhere, including back to Heathrow on the day of our departure (6:45am on a Sunday morning - no delays and no crowds). My only complaint about the Tube is how hot/humid it can get when crowded.

Accomodation: We stayed at the Hotel Indigo in Bath. Super location, very nice rooms. Would recommend it. In London we stayed at an apartment hotel in South Kensington - Cheval Harrington Court. It was superb. Full kitchen that was actually stocked with bread, eggs, milk, juice and snacks when we got there!! We stocked up on fruit/yogurt/cereal so we wouldn't have to buy breakfast each day and it worked great. Bed was comfortable, shower was fabulous, and the room was clean. Located half a block from South Kensington tube station. Couldn't have been a better spot. I have to say it cost more than we initially planned to spend but I'm glad we stayed there. We both ended up getting sick while in London (either colds/allergies or something) and were grateful to have a comfortable spot. We ended up spending one entire day napping and resting, heating up soup and tea in our kitchen. Also got to know the local chemist fairly well!
(continued below)

Posted by
8 posts

Sightseeing: we hit most of the highlights. In Bath, did Afternoon Tea at the Pump Room combined with the Roman Baths tour, saw the abbey, and took a Mad Max day trip to the Cotswolds (all very enjoyable). Honestly I think we could have shortened our time in Bath by a day. In London, we ended up getting a Historic Royal Palace membership, which was cost effective to see both the Tower of London and Hampton Court. Westminster Abbey absolutely blew me away - absolutely gorgeous. I found the British Museum to be underwhelming, oddly. But loved the National Portrait Gallery and Churchill War Rooms. Camden Lock Market was amazing on a Saturday. So many people, and fantastic street food. We did a Regents Canal tour from Little Venice to Camden. The highlight for me was seeing the bench where Jackson Lamb and Diana Taverner secretly meet in Slow Horses, haha. We went to a play - we saw Juno and the Paycock at the Gielgud Theater, starring Mark Rylance. It was excellent. And I loved walking out of the theater into the absolute madness of Soho on a Friday night. People everywhere, street musicians, lights, energy, loved it.
Packing: we each took a 22" carry-on suitcase with a smaller backpack and we were just fine. Each had 4 pairs of pants/jeans, 2 pairs of shoes, and 5-6 shirts/sweaters, along with lightweight raincoats. We had a washing machine in our London room and that was great.

Miscellaneous: We grabbed 50 pounds in cash from an ATM but really didn't need it. I think everywhere we went accepted cards. But I think it was useful to have it just in case.
Overall it was a wonderful trip and I'd love to go back. Particularly at the holidays - I think it would be magical (though probably extremely crowded).

Thank you again to members of this forum for answering questions for me, and for others (I did SO MANY searches while planning this trip!). Your experience and advice has been extremely helpful.

Posted by
291 posts

This is great! Thank you for telling us how it went, and all the details. Hopefully you are feeling all better and readjusting to normal life again (and planning the next trip.)

Posted by
1451 posts

With regard to the National Express pricing: you booked in advance and got a cheap fare. It was only £16 each which is not a lot for a bus ride of 100 miles. On the day there are no cheap fares left so you have to pay the extra for the walk up fare plus the £5 change fee.

Posted by
14818 posts

Thanks so much for your trip report! You did a good job of being able to flex when something unusual popped up like the National Express fare and the shortened train. There have been times when I would have paid a great deal just to get out of Heathrow, hahaha!

Next time you go to Bath, there are so many more things to do! I'm glad you liked the Mad Max tour. They are very good value and the driver guides are always interesting and knowledgeable.

Sounds like an excellent place to stay in London. I like that South Kens area and may have to change back there if my "regular" hotel succeeds in pricing me out, lol. Good to know this worked for you. Sorry you guys got sick but glad you took a day off to just rest and recoup. That is the advantage when you have a number of days in one location. Much easier to have an easy day.

Enjoyed reading!

Posted by
8131 posts

National Express charge dynamic pricing on all routes, just like airlines. Booking last minute is almost always more expensive than booking ahead.

That is what the £5 change fee is for- to avoid buying last minute tickets. You have to pay that up-front when you buy your original tickets. It isn't an option to pay that later if and when you need it. Think of it as an insurance policy. You may not need it (so it's 'wasted' money) but is well spent money if you do need it.

Sorry there was a misunderstanding there.

And starting from an airport is always much more than starting on the same bus from central London.

Think of it this way, full fares on the day is what allows local seniors like me to travel from one end of the country to the other for £15 at 3 days notice!! Like this week when I travelled from Glasgow to Bristol for £15. You were subsidising me.
You also paid £2 per person to rebook with an agent rather than on your 'phone. Even if you had done that standing straight in front of the agent- that helps to pays their wages.
As a senior, if I'd booked on line that £39 on the day fare would have cost me about £25 (1/3rd off, and no £2 agent booking fee).

Posted by
2599 posts

All trains on the GWR London route should be 9 or 10 coaches. Some have been reduced to 5 because they ‘pinched’ the other 5 to run between Cardiff and Cornwall (Penzance). This is because the old trains that they put on that route became too costly to run. From May, GWR will be getting some of the 24 year old trains that the Welsh no longer need as they have new fleets. Hopefully, this will resolve the situation and the London trains will be back to 9 and 10 car formations.

Posted by
1035 posts

Thank you for your trip report. Going to Bath and London in early December, so this was very helpful and timely.

Posted by
2 posts

Yes, thank you for this report! We are leaving Wednesday to do a driving tour and our first leg is a train from Newcastle to York, which I'm excited to try because I've never done such a trip anywhere. I knew we'd hit snags but short trains was not on my bingo card! Ha. We are still sorting out packing and it sounds to me like you are glad you didn't check bags, even with the length of your trip. I'm hotly debating this in my house, especially because of the train leg. Carting around an extra roller doesn't sound fun.

Posted by
8 posts

Thank you for the feedback everyone, especially the further explanation and information about the bus fare charge and the train. And I'm so glad to hear from those who are getting ready to travel! On the packing note, definitely pack as light as you can. I actually think we could have got away with bringing less. One thing to keep in mind is that there will likely be stairs (going up to the platform in train or tube stations, or just in your hotel), so you'll be wrangling multiple rollers up stairs and that is miserable. Another point, since you mentioned that you are driving, is whether extra bags will fit in the car. My brother ran into that on a family trip to Ireland - they brought large suitcases that didn't fit in the trunk, so my nephews in the backseat had one of suitcases on their laps! Ahh good times.