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Trip Advice for an English Garden Themed Trip

Hello! My husband and I (mid-50’s) are heading to England for 2 weeks starting on June 7th. I’d love some feedback on our itinerary and any tips this group could share. This is not our first trip to England and don't feel the need to do all the most touristy things. The theme of our trip is “Gardens” although we do have other interests beyond outside of botanical world, we also enjoy art, history, light hiking, shopping, and eating. We have already visited Blenheim, Sissinghurst, Hidcote, Kiftsgate Gardens for anyone that may be thinking of recommending those. Thank you in advance for your input!

5 Nights in London:
We arrive to Heathrow on Saturday June 7 at 3:30PM. We will take train into London and walk to our hotel from nearest station. | Staying at the Locke at Broken Wharf | Over the course of our London time, we'd like to see the Chelsea Physic Garden, Regent’s Park has a new garden dedicated to Queen Elizabeth, V&A Museum, and Leighton House | One of the days we are in London, we plan to take a train to Beth Chatto Gardens, train to Colchester North Station where we will pick up a taxi to Beth Chatto. Planning to return to London on the same day.

4 Nights in Bath:
Travel from London to Bath via Train - Should we purchase train tickets in advance? | Staying at the Hotel Indigo | First time visit to Bath, do the Mayor’s walking tour to see the main sights of Bath | Bath Skyline Walk
| Picking up a rental car from Enterprise in Bath (already reserved) so that we can make day trips Stourhead, Oudoulf Garden at Hauser & Wirth, Iford Manor.

NOTE: It’s our first time driving in the UK, and we are a little bit apprehensive about this, but we’ve been watching some helpful videos on YouTube.

4 nights in East Grinstead
Drive from Bath to East Grinstead where we will be staying at Gravetye Manor | We will use Gravetye as our home base to do several other day trips in the Sussex area, such as Wakehurst Garden, Charleston House, Arundel Castle, Great Dixter.

The drive between Bath to East Grinstead seems like a rather long one. Would love to find a scenic route or at least identify a pleasant mid-way point to stop and have lunch before we continue onto Gravetye - any thoughts?

Our last morning we plan to leave East Grinstead and drive to Heathrow. Drop off the car at Heathrow, and catch our flight back to LAX on Saturday June 20th 2:30PM.
We are estimating that we should leave the Gravetye by 9:30AM to allow enough time to drive and drop the car and get into the airport. Does that sound accurate?

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The drive from Bath to East Grinstead gives a few options, ignore the one that goes on the M4 and choose the one that goes via Warminster on the A36, A303 and M3, it is a bit more scenic at the beginning, and goes past Stonehenge.

If you're looking for somewhere to stop half way the Coach and Horses in Sutton Scotney is pleasant, and we call in there when we make a similar journey to Sussex from Somerset.

To visit Iford, we normally get the train to Bradford on Avon, and walk. Bradford is simple to get to on the train from Bath, and the circular hike below is pleasant. Bradford is very pretty and has loads of nice tea rooms and restaurants, the Bunch of Grapes does brilliant food.
https://theoutdoorguide.co.uk/walking-routes/walks-by-region/south-west-england/walks-in-wiltshire/two-valleys-wiltshire/

Wells is also very near Bath, the Bishops Palace has pretty grounds, and Wells itself is very underrated and worth a visit. As well as the Cathedral, aforementioned Bishops Palace, it has Europe's oldest continuously occupied street. No train to Wells but you can drive or get the bus.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vicars%27_Close,_Wells

Consider also Hampton Court Palace and Kew Gardens in London although I'm guessing you may have seen these before.

Enjoy your trip it sounds wonderful!

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In London, there’s the Garden Museum, at what used to be a church. Besides the exhibits both inside and outside, the cafe is really nice for lunch. The onsite bread and pastry chef there was particularly talented, and the museum was a worthwhile stop two years ago.

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The Garden Museum is right next to Lambeth Palace and Lambeth Bridge, almost across from the Houses of Parliament. It couldn’t be more central.

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I have also only ever walked to Iford from Bradford on Avon which is a lovely walk if you have time and you’re fit enough. It’s a very short train ride from Bath.

If you are down in Bruton and you don’t mind spending a lot of money then the Newt Gardens are absolutely worth visiting. This is a full day out and then some but entry is only via an expensive annual membership. The garden at Hauser and Wirth is beautiful but won’t take that long to see.

You’ll be fine driving! It’s worth it to see all these places that not very accessible otherwise.

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Bath to East Grinstead is quite a long drive. I go that way often because my brother lives in that area and I live in Bristol. I would stick to the motorway to be quite honest and just get there. Going another a route will take longer and you’ll pass through a lot of towns requiring you to be very vigilant about speed cameras, roundabouts and all the rest. Motorway driving is easier. The M25 is pretty always busy but you just have to sit it out.

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The Hauser & Wirth garden at Bruton can be reached by direct trains from Bath (very other hour) plus a short walk - best to go through a gate to get off the road. (These trains continue to Weymouth on the south coast).

The garden at Dyrham Park (NT) - as short drive N of Bath on the A46 - is well worth seeing.

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I take it you’ve visited Kew gardens in London, since you don’t mention it . Also research the barbican conservatory.

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Lots of good points above.

I would book the Bath train in advance - apart from any costs savings, booking a seat is recommended as the train can get quite full.

We drive an automatic car at home, so we always rent one when travelling as it's one less thing to think about.
You should alllow at least 1.5 hours for the drive to LHR, possibly longer, as part of the route (M25) is notorious for holdups.

The Garden Centre by the entrance to Lambeth Palace is in a deconsecrated church (St Mary's) and houses the tomb of John Tradescant and his son, 17th century gardening pioneers. It is quite small, but very pleasant.

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The center court at the Garden Museum, viewable from tables in the cafe, also unexpectedly has the tomb of Admiral Bligh, formerly Captain Bligh, of “Mutiny on the Bounty” fame. Attractive plants in the courtyard.

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https://www.opengardens.co.uk/open_gardens.php?id=1415

This is something else to consider. For Open Gardens people in a neighbourhood come together to open up their private gardens for visitors. Some serve tea and cakes as well. There is an event in South Bristol on the same weekend and you can browse the site to see if you’re near any others. It’s really interesting and if you love gardening it’s a great chance to talk to other people who also love gardening. It’s very inspiring because these are real people’s gardens.

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Driving in the UK is really not that difficult. I've been doing it off and on when I travel there, and I've never had any real problems.

The key things to remember are to obviously keep left (duh). 😊 But seriously, it's easy to forget. Sometimes I'll forget at the very beginning and start to pull out on the wrong side, but then I'll remember and I won't have any problems after that. I've heard of some people that put a sticker or tape on the steering wheel and write "keep left"on it, so that might help if you are worried about it.

The other thing you want to be aware of is the roundabouts. There are a lot of roundabouts in the UK, some with multiple lanes. It's going to seem a little weird because you're going left into the roundabout as opposed to right like we do in the States. Keep your GPS handy, and hopefully your car will have CarPlay or something similar so that you can watch your car as it goes into the roundabout. If you get in the roundabout and are confused, just keep driving around in the circle until you figure it out. That has happened to me a couple of times; usually in the multiple 3+ lane roundabouts. The single lane roundabouts are no problem as long as you can remember to keep to the left.

But really, after the first few minutes it will seem very natural. In fact, usually when I come back to the States, I have to do the whole thing in reverse and remember to drive on the right.

Also, make sure you keep to the speed limit. The UK uses a number of ways to track speed , including average speed cameras. These cameras monitor a stretch of road, recording a vehicle's number plate at two points to calculate the average speed. If the time taken is too short, an offence is recorded. So it pays to be careful about that.

Also, just in case you did get a ticket, it will usually come after your trip. The government will send it to the owner of the car, which would be the rental agency, and they will in turn forward it to you. They will also notify the government of your address so that you can receive an official summons. However, you will be charged a fee by the rental agency, so you might want to check that in your paperwork to see how much that fee is, just in case.

I received a ticket two years ago for driving in a bus lane (It was raining at the time and I didn't see the sign) and had to pay £40 to the rental agency for the privilege of receiving the ticket from them. However, I lucked out. The amount of the fine that I would have owed the UK was low enough that I guess they didn't consider it worth it to send me the official summons. 😊

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Have you thought about Hever Castle Gardens from East Grinstead?

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What a wonderful trip you’re planning! Gardens are wonderful in the UK! This one isn’t close for this trip, but when you come back and are in the northern part of England, be sure to spend some time in northern Wales and go to Bodnant Garden outside Conwy. I reserved a ticket for the first morning time period, and the loveliness of a quiet garden with several levels of rose gardens to be discovered, along with the Laburnum Arch in full bloom to walk through as the entrance - I’ll never forget it! As I was leaving, a tour bus of people were in the first rose gardens, and that extra special tranquility was suddenly gone…