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Trains from Lake District to Wales

On May 14 my husband and I will take the train from Penrith (PNR) to Llandudno Junction (LLJ) near Conwy Wales. Virgin Trains travels from PNR to Warrington Bank Quay. We need to transfer there to Arriva Trains Wales to go from Warrington Bank Quay to LLJ.

On the Virgin website I can only purchase Anytime fares for this trip. If I want to purchase Advance fares to save money I need to purchase 2 separate tickets--one from Virgin and one from Arriva. So I have 2 questions. Am I doing something wrong that I can't get one Advance fare ticket for the whole trip? If I get separate tickets and the first leg is delayed will Arriva honor the Advance fare or force me to purchase a new ticket on the spot?

Thanks.

Posted by
934 posts

Some advance fares are only sold from 9weeks out,that might be the hitch.
Msg sent

Posted by
166 posts

I don't think that is it because I kept playing with dates starting in March.
Thanks for your response.

Posted by
2847 posts

I too have been looking at tickets in May. Got a great price on Advance fares London to Edinburgh. Looking at ticketscfor the Scotland to Wales portion, I have been unable to find Advance fares for routes with 2 or more train companies. I don't think it is the 9 weeks thing as I have tried dummy bookings within the 9 weeks window and they still do not appear.

I do not knowmifnitis advisable to purchase separate legs of the journey to get the Advance fares. Hopefully someone else can advise.

Posted by
166 posts

Maybe a workaround would be to purchase an advance fare for the first leg of the trip and purchase an Anytime Ticket for the second leg on the second train line. That way if the first train was delayed I would still have a ticket that could be used on a later train. I wouldn't save as much as two Advance fares but it would be a safe compromise.

Any other solutions out there?

Posted by
934 posts

Striaght from the inquiries desk at the station.
Advance fares are limited to the exact train on the ticket, so if your first train is delayed and you miss your connection a new ticket is required.

Posted by
934 posts

You can buy either seniors cards,or you are valid for the new 2together card.
The 2together means getting photos,the senior does not
You then can buy rail tickets online now, but indicate which rail card you have to get the 30% discount.
As long as you have the card before stepping on the train you are fine.
You can buy as soon as you arrive or online before and pick up as they only will post to UK
You must when travelling here have both the pass and train ticket..
This comes straight from the card. salespeople today.

Posted by
4741 posts

According to brfares.com there are no advance fares set at all for this journey, so you will never be able to buy one.

Cheapest is the off-peak single at £36.05.