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train tickets - purchase in advance vs. wait for flexibility

Hello all,
I am trying to figure out the impact of buying train tickets in advance vs. waiting to have flexibility. I don't see anything about this in the guidebook and so am interested in any advice you can give.

My daughter and i will be traveling from Edinburgh to York to London on a ~11 day trip next summer. I will book hotels in advance since it's summer, but if possible would buy train tickets on the day before / day of travel so I could decide if I wanted more time in the current city (to do one more museum!) or to move on and get to the next city. I assume with those major connections that there's not a worry about availability of tickets, just cost, but if availability is a factor we should book in advance.

How would I go about researching this?
Thank you!
Denise

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288 posts

Tickets bought well in advance usually about 3 months out will be much less expensive. You could search your trip online tomorrow and see the price and search 3 months out to see the difference. We trained London to Edinburgh in November and buying tickets in advance they were about 27 GBP one way. On the day of they were like 150 GBP. Seat61.com is a great resource to learn about buying tickets. If cost isn't a concern then pay for flexibility. Probably won't sell out unless it's a particularly busy travel day.

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2599 posts

Note that with the 2 Together Railcard (£30), you are not allowed to travel before 9.30am on weekdays - unless it is a public holiday.
Even buying a ticket the day before can save money, but, as has already been said, pre-booking these longer journeys for specific trains around 11 weeks ahead can save big bucks. I find www.nationalrail.co.uk to be the best site for finding the schedules and fares - when you click to book - it sends you through to the train company on which most of your trip will be made. However, you can book any British train journey at www.crosscountrytrains.co.uk - who do not charge the £10 fee for changing arrangements at a later date - but you will be hot with any increase in the price.https://www.twotogether-railcard.co.uk

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5697 posts

And make sure you're not travelling on a bank holiday! Did that once by mistake; luckily had seat reservations, otherwise we would have stood from Edinburgh to York.

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84 posts

There is a 3rd option for train tickets: off-peak. Cheaper than full price; more expensive that advance. Have to travel starting about 9:15/9:30. Are flexible as to which trains used. Can be bought up to the day before.

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9022 posts

Denise, only you can judge the value of flexibility versus price to yourself. If your hotel dates are fixed, seems like you'd want to fix your rail as well. You'd be paying a big price for a couple of hours of time. How to research? Spend time on the National Rail site, pricing tickets, and see the difference.

The other advantage to buying ahead of time (online) is getting the seat reservation at the same time. Even if trains don't sell out, they can be crowded.

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16895 posts

The place in Rick's guidebooks where these transportation issues are addressed is in the "Practicalities" chapter at the back (before the Appendix). On this site, you can find some similar info on our BritRail page.

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5466 posts

There can be a bit of value in non-Advance tickets that doesn't get a lot of publicity - the fact that it is possible to break the journey as much as you like.

For off-peak returns, in general the outward portion is valid for a day and the return for a calendar month.

For anytime returns the outward portion is valid for five days and the return for a calendar month.

So for the sake of argument you could on a return ticket from London to Edinburgh stop over outwards in the Midlands and the Lake District, and return stopping off at Newcastle, Durham, York, Peterborough and Cambridge.

Of course separate tickets for each leg might still work out cheaper.

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33994 posts

Off-Peak and Super Off-Peak are both turn-up and go tickets with the restrictions on time of use, they usually don't need to be purchased the day before.

Advance (with the capital A) are the big money savers and must be purchased the day before, or for the best deals as stated above, much sooner. There is a movement afoot to move the deadline closer to the departure time but that won't be for the deep discounts available for when they are released 12 weeks out.

Anytimes are the most expensive, valid as it says at anytime.

Don't miss Marco's advice about getting extra value out of a non-Advance ticket.

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165 posts

Thank you all so much. I had no idea the cost difference would be so significant, that's exactly what I needed to know. I don't need the flexibility, just thought I would keep it if there wasn't much of a trade-off. I also appreciate the explanation about Advance vs. Off Peak, that's helpful! I'm going to check out those advantages and then figure out by 12 weeks in advance. Thanks again all!