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Train from London to edinburgh?

Hi! My husband and I are planning on taking a train from London to Edinburgh. Has anyone taken the Ninja Rail? Is this the train we should take? Thoughts? Suggestions? Thankyou!

Posted by
233 posts

Ninja Rail I assume are a 3rd party booking site, if that is the case avoid. Your options are Lumo or LNER, book direct with them.

Posted by
6394 posts

Ninja are a third party re-seller of rail tickets worldwide. They are not a train operator. No need to use their services at all. You will only get an LNER ticket with their commission/service fees added on.
Totally unnecessary.
Take LNER or Lumo or Avanti West Coast- the actual operators.
Trust Pilot and Trip Advisor reviews are generally scathing of them.

Posted by
713 posts

Trust Pilot and Trip Advisor reviews are generally scathing of them.

By "them" do you mean Ninja Rail?

@bcbeville - Just FYI, I've always found The Man in Seat 61's site to be very informative. Here's where to start for information on train travel in Britain: https://www.seat61.com/train-travel-in-britain.htm

I also start looking for specific train trip information at the UK National Rail journey planner. This will show trains from all operators. You can if you wish then go to the train operating company's (TOC) website to book your tickets. National Rail is here: https://www.nationalrail.co.uk/

Posted by
15530 posts

I have traveled between those two cities many times with the last being a few weeks ago.

I always travel with LNER and book directly via their app. It couldn't be easier.

I have never taken Lumo but I've heard decent things about them.

Book direct.

Posted by
6394 posts

By "them" do you mean Ninja Rail?

Yes- I did mean Ninja.

Posted by
2445 posts

Ninja Rail seem to be registered in Malta - enough said! AVOID

You guys come up with some crazy websites that are simply no good. Rome to Rio is another one.

Posted by
3194 posts

Hello bcbeville:

Buying train tickets is like buying airline tickets: always buy from the source, in this case the actual train operators.
For London to Edinburgh, you need trains between London Kings Cross Station, and Edinburgh Waverley Station.
It takes about four and a half hours.

Have a look at the Man in Seat 61 website for how UK trains and stations work.

Posted by
4528 posts

Cmon, don't rag on Rome2rio. It can be a useful tool, but it's just that. I also find that just using Google search often comes up with useful info, looking at things like How much train London Edinburgh, how long train, how many train companies, etc.

Check out Youtube for train vlogs, that run is quite popular and a lot of people have documented it. I think even the Man did a Lumo run to see what it was like.

Posted by
14156 posts

Listen to your new friends here on the RS forum and book directly with the train company that operates on that line. Do NOT use Rail Ninja. Here is a link to a RailNinja thread on the Trip Advisor Train Travel forum. It's 61 pages long and is more than 5 years old with repeated complaints about high prices, non-refundable tickets and poor service after the tickets have been purchased from this 3rd party ticket reseller (plus a lot of chatter from the regulars on that forum).

https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic-g1-i12483-k10309343-o600-Train_booking_in_Europe_thru_rail_ninja-Train_Travel.html#116376931

If you have a smartphone, download the LNER app and book directly thru that or book on your laptop and pick up the ticket in the app so you have it available and don't need to print.

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2445 posts

Rome to Rio is useless. I just tested it for Cardiff to Edinburgh by train on Feb 21st. morning departure. It came up with dep at 8.49 to arrive Edinburgh at 15.37 cost £165. Then i tested exactly the same trains using https://www.traintickets.com/?/ which comes up with a price of £94.20. However, this site also offered a 9.54 departure from Cardiff to arrive in Edinburgh at 16.18 at a total price of £66.99 including a commission for finding a cheaper way of doing it by splitting the fare. (This commission can be avoided by booking each leg separately which will bring the cost down even more). So, by using Rome to Rio, you will be paying around £100 more for using the same trains. Enough said.

Don't believe me - go and test it yourselves and while about it - see what the price would be by using the train company websites for the same journey. They are https://tfw.wales and https://www.avantiwestcoast.co.uk
Also see what https://www.nationalrail.co.uk comes up with for such a journey.

Posted by
8499 posts

Who knew such a simple question would raise such intense answers?

I wanted to mention that if you would like to see some "review" videos about these trains, there are many on You Tube. I'm guessing that Planes, Trains, Everything will have several.

Posted by
470 posts

There are two routes to Edinburgh
Avanti from Euston use the West Route
For best best fares search from London All Stations
Whatever you do please do not use Ninja or rely on Rome2Rio for accurate information
Suggest you consult www.seat61.com for information on rail travel in UK

Posted by
6394 posts

I don't know why Cardiff to Edinburgh was fared above but out of interest I have just done a manual check. The usual place to split on any journey up the west coast beyond Preston from South Wales is Crewe- the 0849 is £71.40 done manually (£30 + £41.40) as against £94.20 quoted. The 0949 is £56.10 (£30 + £26.10) as against £66.99 quoted. Same trains.
The rest must be the third party commission.
Sometimes the split works better across Birmingham (Cross Country route from Cardiff) or Manchester. Depends on the day.

Posted by
687 posts

OP -- you'll ideally travel from London Kings Cross to Edinburgh, probably on LNER service and you can purchase your tickets directly from LNER at their website -- https://www.lner.co.uk/

Don't know if it would interest you, but if you download LNER's app and join their perks program, you get a £5 credit, and earn 2% when you purchase LNER tickets. May still be worth the £5 to join for a one time ticket purchase.