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Scottish Pounds vs. English Pounds

We arrived in London yesterday after a wonderful week in Scotland and still had pound notes we withdrew while in Scotland. The 1st pub we went to i gave the bartender a 20 pound note and he looked at it over and over again and then went and got the owner to authorize it. I wasn't sure what was going on at the time. This morning i walked into a small grocery near Hyde Park to pick a few things up and again the cashier looked at the note i gave him and told me i didn't have English money and that i would need to go to a bank and change out my Scottish money for English money. I was under the impression that the whole of the U.K. used pounds and they worked across borders. There is a bank down the street from the tube station we will be using and i'm hopeful this will be just a simple note swap and not one with a few or exchange rate. To me this does not seem to be a policy that promotes ease of travel across the Scotland-England and Northern Ireland.

You'll be fine using Scottish notes in big shops, major attractions etc. However smaller businesses may never have seen a Scottish note. If you're a small trader you're going to be really cautious about accepting something unfamiliar to you, in case it's a forgery.

So make sure you use your Scottish notes at bigger concerns where they're more likely to be familiar with them.

Bear in mind there are several different Scottish banks whose notes all look different. I can understand a small trader being leery about accepting them.

The whole of the UK does indeed use pounds but traders have the responsibility to themselves not to accept notes they think might be forged because they look so odd.

Posted by
5326 posts

The simplest way of using banknotes issued in Scotland or Northern Ireland in England is to use them in a self-service shop checkout. No stroppy individual to argue with there.

I rarely have a problem with Scottish notes, but ones from Northern Ireland still faze people more.

Posted by
2506 posts

it's all sterling

if some shopkeepers are too thick to accept notes because of unfamiliarity then shop elsewhere

Posted by
1279 posts

'Rambling on' is right, it's all sterling. But getting people to accept Scottish notes in London might prove problematic as it's possible they've never seen them, and it's a matter of ignorance. Even here in the north it can be problematic occasionally but it's still ignorance. Your notes are legal tender in England even if it says 'Scotland' on them. If you've no further use for the Scottish notes, calling into a bank may be a good idea so they can exchange them for the 'English' version. But you are only doing this to overcome the ignorance of others!

Have a great trip!

Ian

Posted by
495 posts

To me this does not seem to be a policy that promotes ease of travel across the Scotland-England and Northern Ireland.

All the notes are "real money" and all are the same currency. "English notes" are issued by the Bank of England, which is the official bank of the entire UK (equivalent to the US Federal Reserve.) The Scottish and NI notes are all issued by private banks much like if, say, CitiBank in the US was allowed to print dollars. It's a historical oddity that mildly inconveniences Scots, Northern Irish and the odd tourist.

There's no will to change it as it doesn't affect most British people and any change would be politically "difficult" (ie Nationalists would go ape!)

Posted by
495 posts

Legal tender always comes up in these discussions. :)

Scottish notes are not legal tender but legal tender doesn't mean what you probably think it does. It doesn't mean shops must accept your money.

Posted by
205 posts

From the Bank of England's website
"Are Scottish & Northern Ireland banknotes "legal tender"?

In short ‘No’ these banknotes are not "legal tender..."

Posted by
5326 posts

As the Committee of Scottish Bankers say:

You should not rely absolutely on Scottish notes being accepted outside Scotland and this is particularly true when travelling abroad. 

Posted by
8 posts

I haven't made it into a bank yet today but had no trouble using the Royal Bank of Scotland notes at the Tower of London. Heading to Harrods with my wife and 3 kids so i'm sure I'll have no problem blowing through the last of them! Thanks for the all the replies!

Posted by
3518 posts

Another thing to note: most US banks and currency exchange booths will NOT exchange the Scottish or Irish pound notes but have no issues with the English ones. I know, I tried. Luckily I was able to return to the UK and had no issues using those notes during that trip.

Posted by
88 posts

This is all really good to know. I was not aware of this issue. This forum is so valuable.

Posted by
1069 posts

I'very known people who've also had trouble exchanging Scottish pound notes in Europe for euros but had no problem with English ones.

Posted by
1640 posts

The phrase is 'of course they are genuine, I printed them this morning.'

Also all Scottish notes carry the currency name 'sterling' on them, you can point this out. Or use self checkout. Travelling down south it is often not the back of beyond places that refuse it is places in the bigger cities.

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5326 posts

There are plenty of places in Scotland that decline Northern Ireland banknotes and you would think they would be used to the concept.

A friend of mine encountered this in a shop in Edinburgh and returned the 'favour' after paying with a BoE note by refusing Scottish notes in change saying 'if you won't accept any of mine why should I accept any of yours?'

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1640 posts

These things do depend very much on the business. I have had NI notes in change here, generally ok in Glasgow and the west given the close line nos to NI.