raincoat and an umbrella?

Depends. Do your raincoats have hoods? Do you carry around or wear things that need some extra shielding like glasses, purse or day bag? Is rain predicted in the upcoming 10 day forecast? I didn’t check your upcoming forecast but we’ve been in the U.K. for long periods of time and have rarely experienced more than a passing shower. I think we may be the exception to the weather roulette though.

I never take one but my raincoat has a hood. I just find the umbrella a nuisance but that is just me.

I wear glasses and find that hoods and hats don't really do much, plus anything I'm carrying will get wet, so I carry an umbrella.

If you don’t take an umbrella and find that you need one, I highly recommend buying an umbrella in the U.K. —at least they have a better selection than Southern California! I have one dear 20 year old umbrella I bought in London that I just can’t part with but I did buy a replacement a couple of years just in case...

If you find you need one, stop in any Boots and you can buy a decent, inexpensive one. I have two that I’ve bought at Boots over the years.

I always bring both a raincoat and an umbrella; I don’t always need them, but when I do I’m glad to have them.

I have never taken an umbrella to Europe. Just one more item I don't need. My Royal Robbins rain jacket is waterproof and has a hood. Great coverage as needed.
Enjoy your trip!

Umbrellas are a hazard when traveling down a busy sidewalk. Have a good coat with a hood.

Beth,

I normally pack both a compact travel umbrella as well as a foldable rain poncho. If the weather is really wet, I tend to use the poncho in order to keep my camera gear dry. If it's just raining lightly, I use the umbrella.

It’s June. Not a big month for rain. However, if you feel better
taking it don’t let me stop you.

This June has been a big month for rain so far. It’s forecast to be extremely wet over the next couple of days.

It’s also been a big month for wind, and I’d definitely leave the umbrella at home for that reason alone! Also they’re a liability on crowded streets. It’s been really unseasonably cold & wet so far this June - more like April.

That said, the weather can change on a dime and by the time you’re here we might have some proper June weather. Currently looking at cloudy at 18 Celsius for the weekend.

My Marmot jacket with hood serves me well. I have an umbrella in the boot of my car but I can't recall the last time I used it, peronally I find them a nuisance, particularly on busy streets. At 6'3" I often find myself at eye level of the pointed ends of other people's umbrellas.

June has been quite we so far this month and unseasonably cooler. There is a weather warning for heavy rain today in the South, a predicted months rain in a day, however my experience of the Met Office recently has been one of complete inaccuracy, even on a daily basis.

Unless you're intending to be out hiking hills and moors and will be focusing more on cities or towns then you'lll always fiind somewhere to escape the heavy downpours, an umbrella is just another hindrance to carry.

I am a dedicated umbrella user, but they aren't much use in the case of high winds.

We are leaving this coming Saturday and looks like the weather will be better by then. The rain coat does have a hood. I use an umbrella at home but not a rain coat. So hard to draw on my own experience.
I think I will take the advice to leave the umbrella at home and buy one if I think I need one.

Umbrellas are a hazard when traveling down a busy sidewalk.

My Indian (Sub-continent) friends commented that American's don't know how to walk with umbrellas. It could be that American's use their umbrellas to preserve a comfortable space around them on crowded sidewalks.

Umbrellas are a liability in wind and rain situations.

@Edgar. Spoken like a long time transplanted Oregonian 😀. We once left a sports event on the University of Oregon campus with about 20,000 other people. It had started to drizzle while we were exiting. My husband and I popped up our smallish umbrellas and started walking only to notice within a few steps that EVERYONE around us had real, hooded rain jackets on and almost in unison most just flipped up their hoods. The rest just walked bareheaded in the drizzle. We felt so culturally out of step with our surroundings...

Mona,

The younger Oregonians don't let some rain bother them. They just have hoodie sweatshirts (not waterproof) and keep their pant legs dry by wearing shorts.

And for those older and wiser Oregonians, Columbia Sportswear manufactures and distributes moderate priced performance rain clothing. Columbia Outlet store items are an even better bargain.
The company is headquartered in Cedar Mill, an unincorporated area in Washington County, Oregon, in the Portland metropolitan area near Beaverton. [Wikipedia]

I never travel without a small umbrella. Our dollar store occasionally has umbrellas and I stock up. This way, I don’t feel bad if I have to leave one behind or if I misplace one. They are obviously not great quality, but cheap and light enough to stick in my suitcase.

I'm with the rain coat. I like to have my hands free to keep other peoples umbrellas out of my eyes.

I wear a baseball cap under the hood to keep it away from my eyes and to protect my face a bit more.

"June has been quite we so far this month and unseasonably cooler. There is a weather warning for heavy rain today in the South, a predicted months rain in a day"

I'm afraid this was my fault - yesterday was the only World Cup Cricket ticket that I was able to get, so inevitably it poured all day.

I grew up in Victoria BC Canada. Very UK and Oregon type weather, but always an umbrella, so I carry both. (Being taller, it helps to keep my personal space and dodge other umbrella points 😉)

I'm afraid this was my fault - yesterday was the only World Cup Cricket ticket that I was able to get, so inevitably it poured all day.

Looks like the people heading to Bristol today aren't going to be any more fortunate.

Current forecast puts entirely dry days well into next week, although some of the days are only showery so could be hit or miss. Although not escaping altogether this is a week where it is better to be in the Northern parts.

I'm with the "good hooded raincoat + buy an umbrella in the UK if needed" crowd.

Last November my good luck with London weather finally ran out. There were serious deluges, lasting longer than "showers," on most days of my 8 day visit. In which I learned that my (impulse purchase) inexpensive almost-knee-length raincoat from Costco - is the bomb. I flipped up the hood and although my eyeglasses caught some drops I was well protected as I slogged along the sidewalks and hopped onto buses without fiddling with an umbrella. I'm kind of obsessive about treating my shoulder bags with water repellant stuff (the kind I also use on shoes), and the bag I was carrying survived the deluges quite well too. My coat just let the drops roll off and it wasn't wet and nasty when I walked indoors out of the rain.

Yes, I got some water on my face that an umbrella might have protected me from, but not so much that I regretted not having one. I didn't have to fuss with handling a wet umbrella when I entered any venue (museums, theatres, restaurants).

I hope you don't need either a raincoat or umbrella. I was in England once in June and it was great. Have fun!

Rainy here in the north today, sleet on the highest hills and blowing to 50 mph.
I am a no brolly guy

I always take my PreCip jacket and a small travel umbrella that fits in it’s pocket. I usually use my hood in cities. But sometimes it’s good to have an umbrella along too.

Nope, cricket a washout yesterday too. Abandoned without a ball bowled.

Maybe travel with a snorkel, fins, and a small boat. G'grief! It's wet. My rain gauge (an industrial sized one) overflowed this morning. Second time this week. And this is the East of England where it never rains and they have been threatening hose pipe bans for the summer.

They say we may get up to four inches tonight.

What a wet mid June! I follow the tennis tour and see that the event in Nottingham is now being played at a university's indoor hardcourts!

62mm overnight - about 2 and a half inches. Filling up again today, too....

webbed feet...

They got the match in in Taunton yesterday though. Pakistan/Australia. Finished differently than it began.

Unless I'm out hiking I don't bring a waterproof...so once. Sometimes I throw one of those tiny bags filled with a poncho in my purse...never used it. I always bring a small travel umbrella, which fits in my pocket or purse, with me. IMO, umbrellas keep me dryer and I don't like the look of waterproof jackets for day to day. Just me. YMMV

Raincoats provide an additional layer of protection against pickpockets while freeing a hand to slap away fingers going for my wallet. It would seem that a worst case combination in fending off pickpockets would be one hand trying to control an umbrella and the other hand dragging a roller bag across the pavement. Of course you can try spinning your umbrella to gain more personal space.

As a winter traveler, my rain jacket also works as a outer wind barrier layer. That of course would be undesirable during warm and humid summer months. But then how often is England both warm and wet (humid)?

Question: what do you do with the raincoat/umbrella when you are out all day and when it is not raining? Wont it be annoying to carry them around? And cannot carry a backpack to stuff them in as most attractions have strict bag policies. Dilemma!

Question: what do you do with the raincoat/umbrella when you are out
all day and when it is not raining? Wont it be annoying to carry them
around? And cannot carry a backpack to stuff them in as most
attractions have strict bag policies. Dilemma!

You get yourself a lightweight foldable waterproof jacket, which squishes up small, and carry it in your bag.

I use a small backpack and it’s not true that most attractions in the U.K. have strict rules. Occasionally I’m asked to check it, or to carry it as a handbag, but that’s the exception rather than the rule. Obviously it’s not a massive one, just big enough to carry wallet, bottle of water, guidebook and squished-up waterproof.

PreCip jackets squish very small. I put mine where most put a water bottle, outside pocket of tote.

No problem with carrying back pack into sites so far. It poured the day we were in Cambridge and there was a point in which I wished I had an umbrella in addition to a rain coat. We ended up popping into a little restaurant for a break.

But the rest of the time, a rain coat has been fine and it actually works well as a wind breaker too.

We took an umbrella along with hooded raincoats and never used our umbrella once. Our hoods were enough and far less cumbersome.

I do have a raincoat with a hood but I use a small umbrella as well to keep my glasses dry so that I can see where I'm going. Not all rain falls vertically.