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Rail fares -London to Paris?

We will be in London March 22-29 and want to go to Paris for a day to see the newly-restored Notre Dame. The best rail fares I have found for 2 seniors, lowest class, is ca. $288 round trip with Rail Europe. Does this sound right? If we have to spend that to visit Paris, that’s fine. I just don’t want to buy the tickets now and find out when we get to London that there was a much cheaper way to do it.

We are also planning to go to Cambridge, as we have never been there. Is there anything like a 2-4-1? We will be going by train. Thank you very much.

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Rail Europe is a travel agency and often does not give all the trains for a given route. It's best to book directly with Eurostar on their website:

www.eurostar.com

I see some fares on Tuesday March 25 for as low as $68 one way. I did not look for RT tickets not knowing how long you wanted to spend in Paris.

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If you go on the Tuesday or Wednesday (mid week- the quietest days) and book through the Eurostar website I am seeing from £78 (about US$95) each. For a day trip you will probably want to be on the 0601 or 0701 from London (arrive 0930 or 1030) to which those fares apply round trip but the 0801 and 0931 out and any evening train back come to £103 (US$133 each).

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You might check Trainline or other train site. That price seems a bit high - Trainline is showing about $100 for a senior RT on, say, Wednesday March 26, leaving from St Pancras to Gare du Nord. Direct on Eurostar is about the same. So about $200 for two, RT.

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We are hoping to go on Wednesday, 3/26, but departing ca. 9 or 9:30 am and returning same night, leaving Paris ca. 8 or 9 pm. I have tried Eurostar and Trainline and their fares were about $20 higher. I will try again. . Thank you, all, very much. Happy New Year.

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Just wanted to mention also that Eurostar pricing is like airline pricing. As soon as seats in one fare class are booked prices increase to the next fare class so better to book as soon as you can.

For Wednesday March 26 I am seeing $86 outbound (and it's always weird when Eurostar insists on giving me the price in dollars rather than pounds or Euro.) for the 9:01 and $66 for the 21:01.

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Thank you. The fares you saw are about the same as what I saw. Interesting that they work the same way airlines do, but not surprising. I guess these are the fares for 2025. I appreciate your kind help. :-) Happy New Year.

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you are probably aware, but just to remind of the time change. An hour later in Paris so the 2 and a half hour trip seems to take 3 and a half by the time you arrive. And don't forget the 90 minute checkin requirement in both London St Pancras and coming back from Paris. I was chatting last Monday with staff at the Eurostar gates at St Pancras and they said it is still 90 minutes for safety, and more in Paris because of the crowding. You go through all formalities before you get on the train - check in with Eurostar, security, exit Border control and entry Border Control (both UK and French) before heading to the waiting room.

Your ETA for the UK will be valid for both your entry on 22 March and on your return from France a few days later.

The two and a half our train trip back to London will be 1 and a half on the clock because you get that hour back.

Are you aware that (free) tickets for Notre Dame are only released a couple of days ahead? What will you do if you only allow a short window for Notre Dame de Paris and can't get in?

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I'll look at Cambridge for you after breakfast. Past my bedtime. Night night.

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Thank you so much for all this great information. We read about the 90 minute security thing, so that’s why we thought to go for the 9 or 9:30 am. We are staying in Kensington, so it will take us a while to get to the station. I’m an early bird, but my husband is slow to get out. If we can’t get free tix to ND, we will have to hope we can get a for $$ tour.

Sweet dreams and many thanks, once again.

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There are no paid tours of Notre Dame until next June, only individual visits.

The hullabaloo may have subsided a little bit by March, as the Church authorities are very clear that they want free access on a turn up and visit basis. They have been struggling to make that principle work in the opening weeks due to pressure of numbers Booking as meant to be an optional thing.

But you could try for attending Vespers at 5.30, and/or Mass with the Angelus at 6, and still be back on time for the last train.
At least you would still get to experience the Cathedral.
The website says there is a different entrance for those attending services.

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I truly appreciate this great information. We have been to ND before, but wanted to see it alive and well again. Hopefully, we will show up early enough to get in at some point. I will be vigilant as our travel date gets closer and keep checking their website. The NY Times had a really beautiful piece about it this week.

Thank you so much for your kind and on-point comments.

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regarding Cambridge.

I'm not sure I can save you a whole heap of money. There is the national 2 for 1 programme from the rail companies but I don't see anything I would want to do in March. There are 6 results at https://www.daysoutguide.co.uk/search-results?q=cambridge but only 2 of those are actual 2-4-1 items, both at the same place. So 20% off a bike tour through a "partner", 10% off a punt company I have not heard of, 2 for 1 on what is called "group punting" (eh?? and in March with that temperature and those winds??) and 20% off what they call sip and paint?

That leaves two proper 2-4-1 experiences, both at the Museum of Cambridge. One an entry and one a tour. Got to say, I've been frequently in Cambridge for over 20 years and I have never been into the Museum of Cambridge, up on the Castle Mound. It just isn't convenient and why pay so much when the really fabulous museums like the Fitzwilliam and the Polar and many others are free? The Fitz really is worth it, and it has the added advantage of being nearly across the street from Fitzbillies, the home of the award winning Chelsea buns (worth every calorie, and there are a few) (take-out or eat in), and a seriously magnificent Chelsea Bun French Toast with maple syrup and crispy bacon (if you try to take it off the plate to take out it will go absolutely everywhere - eat in if you want to preserve any dignity).

If they had gone 2-4-1 on the red Citi-bus open bus tour that might have been worthwhile because in addition to the City it also goes out to the American Cemetery and Memorial of which I have spoken feelingly previously on the Forums. A very special place. But they don't (you can if you wish get a regular but less frequent regular bus there), and of course the Cemetery and Memorial are free. If you need or want more detail, ask.

Duxford is a wonderful WW-2 airfield and museum, part of the Imperial War Museum in London, and unfortunately not free, and not in town.

As far as getting to Cambridge from London, I suggest the train. There are three choices, train from Kings Cross station, or from St Pancras station, or from Liverpool Street station. All different train companies and speeds and prices. It may depend on where in London you will be as to convenience.

Greater Anglia run trains from Liverpool Street station. Cheapest, by a little, and slowest.
Liverpool Street station is on the Elizabeth Line, and the Central, Circle, Hammersmith & City and Metropolitan tube lines.

Thameslink run trains from St Pancras. A little less frequent and Kings Cross is just across the street.
St Pancras is part of a joint tube station with Kings Cross (Kings Cross St Pancras) which is on the Victoria, Northern (Bank Branch), Piccadilly, Metropolitan, Circle, Hammersmith & City tube lines.

Great Northern run trains from Kings Cross. The most frequent, and fastest, including 2 nonstop trains an hour which only take 48 minutes.
Kings Cross is part of the Kings Cross St Pancras tube station discussed just above.

As far as train tickets, Railcards only make sense if you are paying more than £100 on train tickets. You can save 34% on many tickets with a Two Together Railcard which costs £30 (goes up in Spring) but only after 9:30 am in the London area M-F. Railcards are not valid on Eurostar.

If your only trains are Paris and Cambridge I don't think they will pay off. You could avoid the morning rush hour ban by buying Senior Railcards for both of you but you would need one each which means you need to spend £60 which would need £200 of travel to start to pay off...

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Dear Nigel,

You are a wealth of great information. Thank you for spending so much time and effort on our little Cambridge jaunt. Those Chelsea buns alone are enough reason to go!

Once we are more certain of getting tickets for Notre Dame (fingers crossed), we will plan our day trip to Cambridge. Right now, we hope to get to Paris on 3/26 and Cambridge on 3/23 or 3/24.

I truly appreciate all your kind help with this. Happy New Year.

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https://www.fitzbillies.com/pages/trumpington-street for the original branch of Fitzbillies. Be careful if you are visually impaired or mobility impaired - my wife is both and getting up the one or two steep steps is a bit tough but has never kept us away yet!

https://www.fitzmuseum.cam.ac.uk/ for the Fitz - the Fitzwilliam Museum, a wonderful place (decent cafe too)

https://www.botanic.cam.ac.uk/ for the Cambridge University Botanic Garden (not free) near the station and small and perfectly formed. Redwoods too. And really really good sausage rolls, both real and vegan. Really good.

https://www.abmc.gov/Cambridge for the very inspiring and heart-rending Cambridge American Cemetery and Memorial just out of town. I love to go there and walk the rows and columns, and enjoy the museum and meditate in the Chapel

I hope you have a wonderful time in Cambridge, however it pans out.

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Once we are more certain of getting tickets for Notre Dame (fingers crossed)

Hi. Just returned last week from Paris. My first day there, Monday, Dec. 16, the line to enter Notre Dame moved quickly in the morning with about a 10-15 minute wait. Fairly crowded. By Thursday that week, I walked right in at opening time. No line and no crowds. Go early.

No tickets were needed.

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Wow! That is great news. Hoping by March, it will be less crowded. The whole focus of this trip is to see Notre Dame. When I heard you could only get tickets two days before, I got nervous and thought we’d better not book any other tickets for concerts and theater in case we have to go another day. I will still start checking the website on the day we leave from NY and keep on checking every day after. You have given me hope that we might just be able to get in. I’m so happy you were able to get in. Thank you so very much. Happy New Year to you.