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"modular" trip to England and Wales next month

sorry -- a previous version of this was "eaten" by the forum software after I edited it. Weird. Try again...

I will arrive at LHR on Sept 8 for 3-4 weeks in the UK (departure date for France not set). I've not had much time to plan this trip, so it will be very on-the-fly and budget. I am staying in hostels, so booking accommodation ahead is not much of an issue. I am 55+ so may be eligible for some transportation discounts.

My travel style is slow, wandering, enjoying local events, exploring villages. I do not have a long list of tourist sites to tick off.

The loose idea is to use London as an anchor point, returning there as logic and weather dictate. Otherwise I'm thinking in terms of "modules" of 3-5 days, which can be strung together again as weather (and other logistics) allow.

I begin with four nights in London. And then ...

The MUSTS for this trip are:

  • a day (not a weekend day) in Oxford. This can be as part of a longer module, or a day trip from London
  • Hereford ( at least half a day)
  • Glamorgan & environs (Llantwit Major, Ewenny, Brigend, Porthcawl). For this I would base out of Cardiff for 2-3 days and use a local daily bus pass.

Other potential "modules" are:

  • North Wales: 3-5 days based out of the hostels at Llanberis or Conway, again using local bus day passes (?) to explore villages, castles, etc.
  • The southwest: Tintagel, Port Isaac, Port Ives, Eden Project, some coastal walking if weather permits.
  • North and east of London -- Cambridge, etc?

And I want to spend more days in London at some point.

So I need help in figuring out flexible transport without locking myself in. How do I learn about regional transport and day passes, or perhaps something like a rover pass in North Wales? What's the best way to do a Southwest wander -- are there regional day passes on buses? For a long-haul reposition (something illogical like North Wales to Devon) would a rail split ticket be better than coach? and so on.

I've been looking at National Express, Megabus/train, traveline.info, traveline.cymru, ArrivaTrains (England and Wales) and my head is spinning.

How should I proceed to find interesting and not terribly expensive transport, just a few days in advance (or even same day)? Slow and rural is perfect! Transportation is part of the adventure.

Thanks.

Posted by
5466 posts

My long reply went as well. Don't have the time atm to repeat it I'm afraid.

One thing I will throw in is that if you want an usual departure (as mentioned in your previous message but not this one), consider the Plymouth to Santander ferry. There is one convenient for being Barcalona when you previously said you were going to next (but again have missed out this time).

Posted by
2600 posts

for transport within regions you need to find the regional tourist board site or local government site as they are often good sources of information

have a look at these sites for info on public transport
https://www.visitcornwall.com/essentials/getting-around
http://www.visitwales.com/explore/travel-maps/getting-around-wales
http://www.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/transport/around/buses/

budget travel and travelling longer distances on a whim don't necessarily go together - North Wales to Devon may be surprisingly expensive if you don't buy your ticket in advance. Also, if are you travelling to France then you should book your ticket ASAP - walk up fares can be scary.

Posted by
7175 posts

If you are possibly looking at x7 four day 'modules', let's see ...
1 London
2 Oxford/Stratford/Cotswolds
3 Devon & Cornwall
4 Cardiff & South Wales
5 North Wales
6 Peak District
7 Cambridge & Norfolk

... and we haven't even gotten as far as York !!

Posted by
125 posts

David --

Sorry to have confused you. Let's try again. I have 21-28 days in the UK.

I will spend time in London (at least four days, prefer more perhaps in two chunks.)

I will spend one day in Oxford (need to check citations in the Bod). Not touring Stratford or Cotswolds. One day in the library, in and out.

I would like to spend part of a day at Hereford.

I will spend 3-4 days in South Wales.

The for the remaining 12 days or so, I will pick a couple of the other "modules" depending on travel costs, logistics and weather.

And the vagueness of the last bit is why I need direction/tutoring in how to sort out inexpensive transport.

Thanks.

Posted by
2599 posts

I have responded to the Welsh stuff in the Wales forum. Conway/Conwy would make a good base. You might like to consider these 2 railways in N. Wales:>http://www.festrail.co.uk
http://www.portmeirion-village.com

Best to avoid Cardiff when events takes place at the Millennium Stadium:>
http://www.millenniumstadium.com/events/index.php?PHPSESSID=d8757748578eeeeaf14cb5ae2126bc80

Someone said that you were considering travelling to Barcelona. You could do this direct from Cardiff or Bristol airports. See www.skyscanner.net and tick for 'whole month'.

For Cornwall & Devon, I think it really is best to hire a car to cover as many interesting places as possible in the limited time that you have. (It also means that you can stop to take photos). If going into the south-west by train, you might find it cheaper to 'split' the tickets at Taunton - check that train stops at TAU - most do!

Cambridge is very much like Oxford.

Posted by
7175 posts

No, I wasn't confused. Your explanation seemed to be that these modules would consist of different parts of the country that would be your focus for 3-5 days, and that one would not necessarily depend on the other. It's up to you what ideas you pick up and how you string them together, I was merely offering suggestions.
Good luck with your planning, and enjoy your trip.

Posted by
3398 posts

"Cambridge is very much like Oxford"
I respectfully disagree! They are both quite beautiful but in very different ways.
Oxford is far more spread out with paths along the river that the public can enjoy, sprawling colleges with gardens and parks, and a bit more accessible than Cambridge. There are many formal spaces for music, several sizable museums, and many pubs and restaurants.
Cambridge has equally impressive buildings but fewer that are accessible to the public and the river doesn't have many places that the public can enjoy unless you go for a punt. There are plenty of pubs and restaurants but the central part of town is a little more limited IMHO.
Just sharing another opinion!