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London to Edinburgh; driving with detours along the M40/M6

Ok we are planning a rather ambitious trip and I'm wondering.... Is it too ambitious? Should we cut something out?

  • Thursday & Friday: London
  • Saturday: London / Tottenham Game
  • Sunday: Rent Car at Heathrow > Stonehenge > Bath (Roman Baths, Pultney Bridge, Circus, The Royal Crescent) > Stay the night in Oxford
  • Monday: Oxford (Christ Church College, Bodleian Mini Tour, Sheldonian Theatre) > Blenheim Palace > Stay the night in Stratford-Upon-Avon
  • Tuesday: Stratford-Upon-Avon (Anne Hathaway's House, Shakespeare's Birthplace) > Warwick Castle?? > Lake District - stay the night here?
  • Wednesday: Drive to Edinburgh, explore the town
  • Thursday: Edinburgh > St. Andrews > Edinburgh
  • Friday: Train from Edinburgh > London
  • Saturday: Tottenham Game
  • Sunday: Travel home

We want to drive up to give us a chance to see the countryside, and it allows us to keep our luggage in one spot after we check out and while we tour around. But I'm wondering if it would be best to take the train. If we take the train, is it easy to find a locker and stow your luggage? Mostly thinking of that first day in Bath.

I really want to see Bath, my husband wants to see Oxford/St. Andrews.
Should we skip Stonehenge?
Stratford-Upon-Avon seems like a must... but should we skip it and spend more time in the Lake District/driving further from Oxford?

All opinions welcome. He's working on the game tickets and I'm planning the rest of the itinerary - feeling overwhelmed! :)

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Yikes! With this itinerary, you're proposing changing hotels almost every night, driving a couple of hours every day, and whizzing through a bunch of sights every day. This will get very tiring, very fast.

Are you locked into flying in and out of London? On such a short trip, you'll save a lot of time flying home from Edinburgh, Glasgow, or even Manchester, rather than having to get all the way back to London to make your flight.

When you say "Stratford upon Avon seems like a must" - why is that? Not a criticism, a real question. If it's just a "must" because it's famous, skip it - you don't have time to see everything on your list. If it's a must for some other reason, cut something else.

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It is, as you say, ambitious.
Look up routes and travel times on the AA (British Automobile Association) website: http://www.theaa.com/route-planner/index.jsp

The Lake district stop seams pointless, you will arrive late and depart early, no time to see anything.
But, if you have the morning in Stratford-upon-Avon, the afternoon at Warwick castle, say leave earliest 3pm. The AA reckons Stratford-Upon-Avon is 362.4 km, 3 hrs 45 mins (with no stops), so you don't arrive until 7pm!
Keswick to Edinburgh is 215.3 km, 2 hrs 41 mins. Depart 9 am, arrive midday, you only have ½ day to explore Edinburgh.

I think you need more days or fewer places. Try to avoid one night stops,

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I know traveling in Europe is different than in the US, but changing hotels every night is rather typical for an American roadtrip.

We are locked in to flying in and out of London -- tickets purchased, and still hoping to make those two Tottenham games.

As much as I want to see Bath, I'm wondering if we should take that out to reduce the overall distance and give more time to break up the drive past Stratford-Upon-Avon. We both love Shakespeare, which is why it seems like a must ;)

The thought to stop in the Lake District was to break up the drive. We also have friends in Durham who hoped to drive over and meet us for dinner.

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Sorry, but this is ridiculous. You're just cramming stuff in to tick it off and giving yourself no time to do anything. If the Tottenham games are locked in (do you have tickets? if not they are very much the opposite of locked in given the demand for PL tickets) then I'd just spend it in the South. Save Edinburgh and the Lakes for another time, by the looks of things you're barely going to see them anyway.

I know we're only a small country, but it does take time to get between places.

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akkejakke - no need to be unkind. I have been to England a few times, but I have yet to do a roadtrip. Basically, we are looking at a 3-day drive to Edinburgh, where we will spend 2 days before taking the train back to London.

I made my list of what I want to see and then realized it may not work within the time allowed - which is why I'm reaching out! I also realize we won't see anything of the Lake District with my current plan. What I'm asking is... If you made this drive in three days, where would you stop? It doesn't make sense to stay somewhere multiple nights unless we drive halfway.

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Emma - thank you for your reply! That was exactly what I was looking for! I realize that while something looks good on paper, it may not work in reality (due to traffic concerns and such). I've asked my English friends but I think they were trying to be kind and not helping me be realistic.

We're coming in October and yes, both Tottenham games are at home.

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In that case, I'd cut out Stonehenge and do something like this:

Thur/Fri/Sat: London
Sun: Bath
Mon: Oxford
Tue: Travel (possibly stop somewhere for an hour or two, you're better off staying on the east side of the Pennines since you're headed Edinburgh way)
Wed: Edinburgh
Thur: Edinburgh
Fri: Travel
Sat/Sun: London

I don't really see the need for a car on this trip, even including your original itinerary. Everything seems fairly accessible by train, it's a faster method of transport (though I appreciate it can be expensive) and historic towns and cars don't often mix. That's just me, though - if you want to drive then by all means.

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Do you realise that the Tottenham games may change to fit the TV schedules? They maybe anytime between Friday night and Monday night. The actual day will only be confirmed a couple of weeks out.

Others have already commented on how manic your itinerary is!

Stonehenge wouldn't be on my top 100 things to see in the UK, so if you aren't interested in old stones, then yes, you should skip it. Stratford upon Avon is another place that could easily be missed IMO - tourist tacky, but worth visiting if you want to see a play at the theatre. Take a cushion, as the seats are not comfortable.

If you use Google maps for your route planning, add at least a third.

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Megan,
We leave in two weeks for Bath so I have been looking at maps and planning for awhile now. Have you looked at Avebury in place of Stonehenge. it would be easier to get too on the way out of Bath to M4. You can walk among the stones and touch them. We eliminated Stonehenge almost immediately as the direction this trip is Bath, Cardiff and out toward Linmouth.

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Thank you all for the continued help!

SteveB - we've decided to cut out Stratford-upon-Avon so we can spend more time driving around the Lake District. My husband is eager to see it in the fall. Hopefully this will help us miss some major traffic jams. I plan to purchase our train tickets and book our hotels prior to leaving.

Jennifer - yes, this is all just an estimate. I'm an event planner by trade so I must have a strong timeline to start with and then fluctuate with the game schedule if we must, but we would still know prior to leaving for England. Typically, by mid-August the October schedules are secure, but we are waiting a few weeks to book anything beyond our plane tickets - which puts us in the timeframe you mention.

So it looks like Tuesday will be our longest day of driving, unless I can convince my husband to take the train, but hey - apparently we're a bit crazy ;)

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Oh and St. Andrews because I was a competitive golfer in school and my husband is a golfer as well.